Re: [DNG] devuan.org signature problem

2022-09-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 08 September 2022 at 19:52:20, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi list, > > Upgrading a machine to daedalus, apt-get update returns this error: > > W: GPG error: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease: The > following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan >

Re: [DNG] Invalid signatures on testing

2022-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 05 September 2022 at 13:35:00, Antonio Rendina via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I get invalid signatures from testing version. Should I just wait that > they get updated or is there something that I should do to update it? See

Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem

2022-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 22 August 2022 at 18:10:53, Haines Brown wrote: > I usually have no problem sending attachments with mutt. But now I > want to send a directory that holds files: > > ./patthToDirectory/directory > > This does not work because I gather attachements must be > single files. Is not a

Re: [DNG] Wifi dropping ramdomly

2022-08-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 17 August 2022 at 12:32:18, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I've found that wifi shuts down on one of the older and slower local wifi > frequencies whenever my microwave oven is in use. I would suggest you get someone to check the seals on your oven if it's leaking that much radiation.

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 30 July 2022 at 16:47:59, Steve Litt wrote: > Inconvenient to newbies? LOL, compare it to *too or Slackware :-) Have I missed something - are there spinoffs from Gentoo which also end in too? Just intrigued at your (twice, now) use of the wildcard. Antony. -- You can spend the

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 30 July 2022 at 12:07:53, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ > > > > I think the author knows nothing about devuan and spreads FUD > > I thought most of the Devuan review was

Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]

2022-07-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 28 July 2022 at 12:41:35, marc wrote: > > I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host > > lists.dyne.org > > Or more precisely, 162.19.139.95 which claims to be sending mail > as lists.dyne.org - at least to me > > Perhaps this is a live server

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 11:58:01, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi Antony, > > Thanks for the feedback. I've been researching a bit myself in the mean > time as well but still value additional input from the list. I completely agree - asking people with experience, and with whom you can have a

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 05:18:47, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi list, > > I lost the single SSD on my mini PC and am in the process of rethinking > its storage. So far, I've got myself two brand new and identical PCIe > NVMe SSDs (256GB) for use in a software RAID1 setup. I think I

Re: [DNG] Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1

2022-07-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 July 2022 at 14:52:37, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 23 July 2022 at 13:47:00, Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I'm trying to install Devuan Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 board, also known > > as a Lamobo R1: https://linux-sunxi.org/Lamobo_R1 > &g

Re: [DNG] Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1

2022-07-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 July 2022 at 13:47:00, Antony Stone wrote: > Hi. > > I'm trying to install Devuan Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 board, also known > as a Lamobo R1: https://linux-sunxi.org/Lamobo_R1 > The keyboard doesn't work. (It works on any other computer) Update: I've now co

[DNG] Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1

2022-07-23 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm trying to install Devuan Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 board, also known as a Lamobo R1: https://linux-sunxi.org/Lamobo_R1 I've previously been using it with Bananian (https://www.bananian.org/ seems to be pretty broken at present), but since I use Devuan on everything else I have, I'd

Re: [DNG] Upgrade & migrate?

2022-07-07 Thread Antony Stone
ose. I'm asking about going from one version of Debian to the next version of Devuan. > On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 05:56:24PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I notice that https://www.devuan.org/ states that "Devuan Chimaera can be > > installed as an upgr

[DNG] Upgrade & migrate?

2022-07-06 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I notice that https://www.devuan.org/ states that "Devuan Chimaera can be installed as an upgrade from Devuan Beowulf or migrated from Debian Bullseye. Note that skipping releases is not supported." I seem to recall that earlier releases could be: - migrated from the equivalent Debian

Re: [DNG] Linux Pro Magazine revisits Devuan

2022-07-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 06 July 2022 at 15:19:19, Steve Litt wrote: > How does one give the distro a few dollars? Try the "Donate now" link at the top right of https://www.devuan.org/ Antony. -- If you ask a Yorkshireman whether he knows the German word for "egg", don't be surprised if he just smiles

Re: [DNG] PHP question

2022-06-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 June 2022 at 17:49:03, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > I've been running Devuan on my break even public facing webhosting > system for several years. I've been using ISPConfig and the debian > perfect server instructions with adjustments for Devuan. I'm up to > Devuan

Re: [DNG] strange effect on overwrite

2022-06-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 June 2022 at 15:41:21, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > This does not make sense to me: > > >> dd if=/dev/zero of=xx bs=1G count=1 > > >> > > >> reports 2.6 GB (expected) > > IMO ~ 1GB is expected, not 2.6: > > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=xx bs=1G count=1 > 1+0 Datensätze ein > 1+0

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

2022-06-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 June 2022 at 01:04:24, Antony Stone wrote: > I have a machine with a motherboard having 6 SATA ports, into which are > connected one SSD and five HDDs; it also has two USB3 ports into which are > plugged two Fantec 8-drive external cabinets, each containing 8 SATA di

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

2022-06-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 June 2022 at 00:10:51, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Have found some PCIe 3.0 cards with 16 SATA port count. > > Do I need any kind of special driver to use this many SATA ports? tito has a good question - what sort of cards are they? But, in principle, no, you do not need any

[DNG] HP Ryzen Laptop

2022-06-13 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I just came across a favourable review of a new HP laptop based on AMD Ryzen. I like the name they gave it :) https://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=31205 Antony. -- Abandon hope, all ye who enter here. You'll feel much better about things once you do.

Re: [DNG] fdisk SD card partitioning question

2022-06-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 12 June 2022 at 17:11:45, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I have some directories I want to back up to an SD card while preserving > the permissions. I have tried to repartition a 64GB card and write an > ext4 filesystem. What is the existing partition table? Out of interest, since this is

Re: [DNG] cron runs a ghost command

2022-06-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 June 2022 at 14:02:36, Haines Brown wrote: > I find that user's cron runs a command defined in crontab -e some time > ago but then removed. At present there is no command defined in $ > crontab -e. What does "crontab -l" (as the user) or "crontab -u [username] -l" (as root) tell

Re: [DNG] assistance sought to repair install - - re:python

2022-05-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 14 May 2022 at 14:37:41, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > I was trying to clean up my /usr/bin directory so was discarding older > versions of software. You should never manually delete binaries or library files which have been installed by a package management system. If

Re: [DNG] resolv.conf

2022-05-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 08 May 2022 at 16:24:03, william m. moss wrote: > Years ago I became fed up with too many applications and installations > corrupting my resolv.conf. I type in a resolv.conf using an editor. Me too. > To prevent the file from being corrupted by other applications: chattr +i

Re: [DNG] Hardware support for new Thinkpad?

2022-04-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 April 2022 at 13:28:38, . via Dng wrote: > I just got a Thinkpad P1 gen 4, and Chimaera doesn't recognize the > audio, camera, or HDMI port (not to mention the fingerprint sensor in > the power switch). I could use some guidance in what to look for... I would start with lspci,

[DNG] Find efficiency [Was: Re: mouse driver question]

2022-04-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 24 April 2022 at 04:15:35, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Antony Stone writes: > > > > I just tried several successive searches for a few unique filenames in a > > directory tree (all files in the same directory, just in case the >

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > > > Some time ago, in a similar situatio

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > > > > So, where do I go from here? > > Some time ago, in a similar

Re: [DNG] information request

2022-04-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 20 April 2022 at 13:17:48, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > In the process of upgrading my system I now am stuck at a point where > I don't know how to resolve the conundrum. > > /bin/sh: 1: /usr/bin/apt-listchanges: not found > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/apt-listchanges

Re: [DNG] Latex install question

2022-03-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 11 March 2022 at 16:02:23, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile a program which expects that Latex is installed. What specific thing does it complain cannot be found when you try to compile it? I would then search for that thing in the contents of the various available

Re: [DNG] Kernel Vulnerabilities or who understands this mess

2022-03-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 09 March 2022 at 15:04:09, Stuart Duckworth via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 18:41, Ken Dibble wrote: > > > > The thing I found is that the default /etc/apt/sources.list has > > chimaera-updates and chimaera-security commented out. > > Is this really well thought out? > > I

Re: [DNG] "post mortem" (was: Popcorn)

2022-02-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 20 February 2022 at 12:57:07, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Dear list, > > I just want to share the two most important things I learned yesterday: > > 1.) I can "delete" files for which I do not have write permissions, if > the containing directory is writable by me: Indeed -

Re: [DNG] Installing on a Raspberry or a Banana?

2022-02-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 07 February 2022 at 22:14:32, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 07-02-2022 22:03, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > I want to install Devuan on a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and also on a Banana > > Pi R1. > Last time I needed an RPi image I used this link > https://arm-files.d

[DNG] Installing on a Raspberry or a Banana?

2022-02-07 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm wondering what has happened to the "embedded" subdirectory which was present under Jessie and Ascii, but no longer seems to exist for Beowulf or Chimaera (or later). I want to install Devuan on a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and also on a Banana Pi R1. Are these still possible? Do I need to

Re: [DNG] Stability will be achieved when you spend all of your time reporting on the nothing you did.

2022-02-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 07 February 2022 at 15:23:41, Ken Dibble wrote: > Application: firefox 78.15.0esr > > URL: about:telemetry#home-tab > > Page contains statement: Telemetry is collecting release data and upload > is disabled. > > URL :about:telemetry#histograms-tab > > Page contains seemingly endless

Re: [DNG] Scheme/Lisp: was What is your take on finit?

2022-02-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 01 February 2022 at 18:01:56, Steve Litt wrote: > How can I acquire the proper mindset to do Scheme or other functional > languages the right way, so I can finally start functional programming > that doesn't have a C accent? From personal experience I suspect the only answer to that

Re: [DNG] What is your take on finit?

2022-02-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 01 February 2022 at 17:55:30, Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > Anno domini 2022 Tue, 1 Feb 11:44:37 -0500 Steve Litt scripsit: > > > > In the hands of anything but a very careful and security-knowledgeable > > programmer, writing Python3 is more secure than writing C. You could > >

Re: [DNG] connecting to a chromebook (OT??)

2022-01-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 26 January 2022 at 15:24:35, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > If this is too far off topic - - - please advise. It's not on-topic, but I'm pretty sure people will try to advise :) > Just got myself a chromebook > My routher is at 192.168.1.1 and all my other hardware is

Re: [DNG] [OT] problem with quemu dnsmasq vs unbound

2022-01-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 21 January 2022 at 12:55:04, al3xu5 via Dng wrote: > On my chimaera system, I am using unbound as a local recursive caching DNS > (not authoritative) server. More, I have uninstalled dnsmasq, as I do not > need it and want to avoid it interfering with unbound. > > But QEMU/KVM requires

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 17:24:46, Peter Duffy wrote: > On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 04:12 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E > > Thanks for the link to that - brilliant talk. I've always thought that > Brian Kernighan himself was the great

Re: [DNG] Qt, KDE, unbelievable

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 14:36:56, Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE via Dng wrote: > I am looking for a way to fake that I'm opening/reading the ads so the > magazine et all get paid but without having my screen actually littered > with ads and especially my ears not molested. That would be nifty.

Re: [DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 13:32:39, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available > in websites all this information about my system is included. a) all what information? b) which email client are you using? > Is there a way

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 12:30:20, Steve Litt wrote: > Antony Stone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:02:08 +0100 > >On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:58:32, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > I use openntpd. Is that NTP, or only SNTP? > > > > It's both: https://man

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 12:00:55, Steve Litt wrote: > Antony Stone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:53:07 +0100 > > >That logo appears on the installer screen every time you create a > >machine. > > I don't pay a lot of attention to aesthetic components unless they're &

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:58:32, Steve Litt wrote: > I use openntpd. Is that NTP, or only SNTP? It's both: https://man.openbsd.org/ntpd Antony. -- Most people would be a lot less bothered about what other people think of them if they only realised how seldom they do.

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:39:25, Steve Litt wrote: > goli...@devuan.org said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:07:20 -0600 > > >THIS is the official Devuan logo: > > > >https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics > >/devuan-logo-1000x200.png > > Nice! > >

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:59:46, Steve Litt wrote: > goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41 > > > >Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png > > For the first 36 hours after you posted this, I thought "if" was the > English word "if", not "Internet Freedom" or

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:49:32, Blakov Niyt wrote: > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png > > > > Hence https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png :) > > Both look WAY too much like Facebook. A change of background colour would be sufficient to fix that. Antony. --

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:07:25, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . " > > > > > > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png > > > > > > Will need to be discussed at our

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png > > > > Or this might be even better https://transfer.sh/CeUT0r/if-rev3.png > > I do not see a difference

[DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-18 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I wanted to check the current list of init systems supported by Devuan, so I went to the website to find out. I noticed the prominent motto "init freedom - watch your first step!" there, and wonder whether this is an entirely positive thing for new visitors to the Devuan world to see? It

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

2022-01-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 16 January 2022 at 15:42:13, Maurice McCarthy via Dng wrote: > Can you block ads on the firewall? On OpenBSD's pf firewall config > file this pretty much wipes out all ads on youtube. > > table {8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4} > table {2001:4860:4860:: 2001:4860:4860::8844} > pass in quick to

Re: [DNG] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 14 January 2022 at 00:15:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 12:45:09PM -0500, . via Dng wrote: > > The shell receives a series of tokens, and tries to interpret the first > > one as a command. In the double-quoted attempt above, it gets two > > tokens before the first

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 13 January 2022 at 18:19:23, Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > Steve Litt writes: > > [slitt@mydesk ~]$ "cat -n" /etc/fstab | cut -b 1-20 | head -n5 > > bash: cat -n: command not found > > [slitt@mydesk ~]$ "cat -n /etc/fstab" | cut -b 1-20 | head -n5 > > bash: cat -n /etc/fstab: No

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 13 January 2022 at 15:07:22, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 05:45:08PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > [slitt@mydesk ~]$ cat -n /etc/fstab | cut -b 1-20 | head -n5 > > > > 1 UUID=730eaf92 > > 2 UUID=41abb5fd > > 3 UUID=96cfdfb3 > > 4

Re: [DNG] nftables firewall and fail2ban replacement.

2022-01-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 13 January 2022 at 11:41:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > My experience/understanding of fail2ban is that it's intended > against attackers "smart" enough to periodically change their address. I don't care whether it's individual attackers who change their address, or multiple

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 12 January 2022 at 00:08:38, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > #!/bin/bash > for f in "$@" ; do > xcmd="unrar x" > $xcmd "$f" > done > > Can please somebody explain, why, if I double-quote the "$xcmd" > variable in line 4, the script fails with > > ./test.sh: line 4:

Re: [DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

2022-01-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 06 January 2022 at 22:30:58, Ken Dibble wrote: > Why is xdg-desktop-portal in a fresh install of Chimaera? I have a Chimaera machine here, freshly installed, without any graphical desktop environment - just a command-line network server - and xdg-desktop- portal is not installed. >

Re: [DNG] Track process start / stop?

2022-01-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 06 January 2022 at 12:04:48, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 11:51:09AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I'm wondering whether there is any way of getting a list or log file of > > processes which get started and terminated, indepen

[DNG] Track process start / stop?

2022-01-06 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm wondering whether there is any way of getting a list or log file of processes which get started and terminated, independently of whether those processes themselves actually do any logging. Suppose you're running "top". You see processes appear and disappear from the list as they start

Re: [DNG] How to make non /usr merged dpgs (was: Re: merged /usr breakage)

2022-01-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 05 January 2022 at 11:24:08, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > $ ldd /sbin/init | grep /usr > > > > libpcre2-8.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 > > (0x7f737ba28000) > > So, how do I change the above package to install the lib in >

Re: [DNG] Question about the text editor named medit.

2022-01-04 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 04 January 2022 at 13:18:07, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Dear All, > > Upgrading to chimeara removed medit, a text editor I used for writing > code and any other plain text document. I could not install it and it > seems it has been removed from the repository. Searching online

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 03 January 2022 at 13:37:43, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Following the official directions: Not quite... > # apt update > Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera InRelease It's called "chimaera" :) Antony. -- What do you get when you cross a joke with a

Re: [DNG] Ryzen?

2021-12-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 27 December 2021 at 18:54:41, Antony Stone wrote: > Any opinions from personal experience, or pointers to reliable data, on the > topic would be appreciated :) Many thanks to all who replied, either on- or off-list, with comments and observations. Very helpful indeed. This is

Re: [DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 28 December 2021 at 02:07:09, alphalpha--- via Dng wrote: > Hello > is anyone else having this problem or is it just me? > --- > --sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev > The following packages have unmet

[DNG] Ryzen?

2021-12-27 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. Disclaimer: I generally don't like people saying things like "I read somewhere that..." without backing up what they're talking about, but... I'm sure I've read somewhere (and not especially recently) that Linux on AMD Ryzen CPUs can be unreliable and/or surprisingly poor performance. Can

Re: [DNG] openjdk-17 ?

2021-12-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 24 December 2021 at 21:00:10, hal wrote: > Hi All, > I'm trying to play Minecraft v1.18.1 but it needs java v17. It looks like > v11 is the only available version for Beowulf. I'd rather not download the > Debian .deb from oracle. Anyone know of a repo I can add for Beowulf?

Re: [DNG] create .deb packages with alien

2021-12-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 December 2021 at 23:11:41, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > Until recently I have created .deb packages with alien I don't know if when > updating to chimaera it broke down because I haven't done it for a while > I don't know if someone on this list can help me or tell me where to

Re: [DNG] Release dates

2021-12-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 December 2021 at 04:54:24, Xenguy via Dng wrote: > From: "Antony Stone" ; Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 11:22:50 AM: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/releases has no dates on it, which seems > > odd, I think. > > > > Would it be possible

Re: [DNG] SOLVED: Cron daily didn't run

2021-12-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 21 December 2021 at 19:35:47, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 December 2021 at 13:53:48, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > >> Yesterday I upgraded and then rebooted. > >> > >> how come cron daily didn't run? > The problem is a hard link to /etc/crontab; >

Re: [DNG] Help: Cron daily didn't run

2021-12-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 21 December 2021 at 13:53:48, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday I upgraded and then rebooted. > > how come cron daily didn't run? No idea - when is it supposed to run? > I have an entry in crontab saying: > > 47 4 * * 7 root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron

[DNG] Release dates

2021-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I just happened to be telling someone about Devuan as a way of running a Linux server without systemd, and I realised that https://www.devuan.org/os/releases has no dates on it, which seems odd, I think. Would it be possible to at least include the release dates for each version (and, as

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 16:32:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/12/2021 à 14:55, Antony Stone a écrit : > > > > So, you did "aptitude why libpulse0" and it said > > "xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin". > > > > However, was that: > > &q

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 14:43:30, Didier Kryn wrote: > Aptitude why libpulse0 only lists xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, but it > misses a lot, including indirectly xfce4. Yes, this is in my opinion one of the shortcomings of "aptitude why" - it only goes "one level up", whereas I would

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 11:22:10, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 11:14:59, Didier Kryn wrote: > > I noticed, looking for packages the name of which include just the > > > > string "pulse", that a few PA libraries are still inst

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 11:14:59, Didier Kryn wrote: > I noticed, looking for packages the name of which include just the > string "pulse", that a few PA libraries are still installed and cannot > be removed because a lot of packages have a dependency on them, such as > xfce4, atril

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size

2021-11-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 01 December 2021 at 00:00:00, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > I am getting e-mails like the one below all the time, now. > 2021-11-30 06:00:19 1momA3-00054k-DE ==m...@quixote.home R=local_user > T=mail_spool defer (-1): Tainted '/var/mail/marc' (file or directory name > for

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 November 2021 at 12:14:31, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 19 November 2021 at 12:06:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 19/11/2021 à 12:29, Peter Duffy a écrit : > > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > > > linux se

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 November 2021 at 12:06:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/11/2021 à 12:29, Peter Duffy a écrit : > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > > linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a > > concern raised which took me by

Re: [DNG] Chimaera unknown interwork interface

2021-10-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 25 October 2021 at 11:37:47, Haines Brown wrote: > With Beowulf, udev gave my wireless interface the name of a MAC > address rather than wlan0. I thought the renaming would appear again > with Chimaera, but not so. The wireless interface named wlan0. The > ethernet interface remains

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 17 October 2021 at 17:55:56, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I've learned it's useful to repeat upgrades and dist-upgrandes and an > occasinoal aptitude until nothing happens AND there are no errors reported. I have found that apt is better for doing an upgrade whereas I prefer aptitude for

Re: [DNG] 2FA via SIPP# to PC- HowTo? Under Devuan

2021-10-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 08 October 2021 at 13:31:08, ael via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 09:28:08AM +1100, terryc wrote: > > Hello folks > > > > Since it is topical:2FA > > > > So any recommendations for software and cluebies? > > > > For 2FA, all I need is a text message receiver. Others may want

Re: [DNG] 2FA via SIPP# to PC- HowTo? Under Devuan

2021-10-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 08 October 2021 at 00:28:08, terryc wrote: > Hello folks > > Since it is topical:2FA > > TL:DR how to do it? > So any recommendations for software and cluebies? > > For 2FA, all I need is a text message receiver. Others may want the > whole headset backend. Any clues/experience? I

Re: [DNG] unsubscribe

2021-09-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 September 2021 at 00:30:55, Owen wrote: > Hi, > Tried multiple times to unsubscribe but don't know which address you are > sending this to on my domain. Look at the delivery headers? You sent this *from* o...@gonwanda.net so the fact that it arrived on the list and got accepted

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 September 2021 at 14:46:34, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 13:25:58 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > > > > You can say the same about network firewalls (or almost any security > > measure, in fact). Security is seldom aligned with convenience. > &g

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 September 2021 at 12:54:01, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + g4sra wrote: > > > > How is Apparmor abusive ? > > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > 1) I experienced unexpected behavior of programs > silently failing to do something

Re: [DNG] gcc-doc

2021-09-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 01 September 2021 at 12:33:38, Antonio A. Rendina via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I remember that there was a discussion about this, but I'm no able to > find it anymore. The question is how do I install the gcc-doc package? > > For what I understand Debian put it on non-free, but on

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 20 August 2021 at 15:34:01, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:42 PM Antony Stone wrote: > > > > I didn't want to end up with Debian anyway - the only purpose was to be > > able to install FreeSwitch, find out how much of it really depended on > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 18:53:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:52:12PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > I've purged eudev and now I'm installing FreeSwitch :) > > > > Thanks for the pointer - looks like this will get me where I wanted to &

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Install "equivs" and build a dummy package. > > Nik Once again, thank you indeed for introducing me to this tool. One tip that I'll pass on in case other people here find it useful: - unless the thing you want to install

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:42:28, Antony Stone wrote: > # dpkg -i systemd_250_all.deb > (Reading database ... 43385 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to unpack systemd_250_all.deb ... > Unpacking systemd (250) over (1.0) ... > dpkg: dependency p

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:27:22, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2021 Thu, 19 Aug 13:18:16 +0200 Antony Stone scripsit: > > > freeswitch-systemd : Depends: systemd which is a virtual package and is

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 13:22:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Thu, 19 Aug 13:18:16 +0200 Antony Stone scripsit: > > > freeswitch-systemd : Depends: systemd which is a virtual package and is > > not provided by any available package > > Install &q

[DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. This may seem like a strange question, but has anyone tried "migrating" a machine from Devuan to Debian (ie: not the normal way round we discuss it here)? I have a need to play with FreeSwitch, and the package installer tells me: freeswitch-systemd : Depends: systemd which is a virtual

Re: [DNG] Download a package, maybe a few, for a different architecture and a different release.

2021-08-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 01:01:09, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I need to download a package to install on a machine that is currently > air-gapped. Do you not even trust the connectivity to give it a proxy server? > I have to download an i386 package for chimaera on an AMD64 beowulf > machine.

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

2021-08-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 17 August 2021 at 21:32:22, Steve Litt wrote: > After reading your message, I'll be investigating OpenZFS to add to my > data preservation arsenal. But I still say, for those things that must > last 50 years without continual attention, paper is the hot tip. I wonder - where do you

Re: [DNG] Need openssl for this week's fetchmail vulnerabiltiy fix

2021-08-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 August 2021 at 13:14:10, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > On 8/7/21 7:05 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > >> # apt-get source openssl > >> Reading package lists... Done > >> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list > > > > Have you run apt-get update after having

Re: [DNG] Need openssl for this week's fetchmail vulnerabiltiy fix

2021-08-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 August 2021 at 12:40:46, Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 07 August 2021 at 12:07:54, d...@d404.nl wrote: > > My sources.list looks like: > > > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main non-free contrib > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowul

Re: [DNG] Need openssl for this week's fetchmail vulnerabiltiy fix

2021-08-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 August 2021 at 12:07:54, d...@d404.nl wrote: > My sources.list looks like: > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main non-free contrib > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main contrib non-free > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main contrib

Re: [DNG] [OT] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 31 July 2021 at 12:02:47, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I like to use the safest programming language that is compatible with > the functions the program is to perform. Do you have a list of languages ranked by safety :) ? Antony. -- What makes you think I know what I'm talking about? I

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