On 2017-09-27 12:05, John Franklin wrote:
Nor is botbot an obvious Devuan resource. It is not mentioned
anywhere on www.devuan.org, [1] so why would there be a reasonable
expectation to even *think* to look there?
jf
The botbot archives are indeed linked from the devuan.org index page in
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> On Sep 21, 2017, at 12:44 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> On 2017-09-20 22:36, John Franklin wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:59 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>>> From a search for 'network-manager' in the botbot logs.
>>> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/search/?q=network-manager
>>> Was that
goli...@dyne.org writes:
> On 2017-09-20 22:36, John Franklin wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:59 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>>>
>>> From a search for 'network-manager' in the botbot logs.
>>> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/search/?q=network-manager
>>> Was that so hard?
>>
>> Yes, it is. An
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org):
> Because botbot logs the #devuan irc channel where a LOT of questions
> are answered and or solved. IMO every Devuan user should have it
> bookmarked. It is mentioned frequently on all Devuan communication
> channels - those references are pretty har
On 2017-09-20 22:36, John Franklin wrote:
On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:59 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
From a search for 'network-manager' in the botbot logs.
https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/search/?q=network-manager
Was that so hard?
Yes, it is. And condescending.
Why would someone look at the I
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:59 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> From a search for 'network-manager' in the botbot logs.
> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/search/?q=network-manager
> Was that so hard?
Yes, it is. And condescending.
Why would someone look at the IRC logs of a site that they've nev
On 2017-09-20 21:47, John Franklin wrote:
On Sep 20, 2017, at 4:25 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2017-09-20 15:09, zap wrote:
The phase “depends on systemd” is being used in two extreme contexts
here. The first is a technical context, where “apt-get install
” fails because of a dependency, a
On 2017-09-20 20:51, zap wrote:
I would actually like network manager to have its garbage systemd
dependencies removed.
___
It's already been done
golinux
In which version of devuan? all of them or just jessie? just curious.
From a search for
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 4:25 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> On 2017-09-20 15:09, zap wrote:
>>> The phase “depends on systemd” is being used in two extreme contexts here.
>>> The first is a technical context, where “apt-get install ” fails
>>> because of a dependency, and may be trivially fixed
I would actually like network manager to have its garbage systemd
>> dependencies removed.
>> ___
>>
>
> It's already been done
>
> golinux
>
In which version of devuan? all of them or just jessie? just curious.
>
> __
On 2017-09-20 15:09, zap wrote:
The phase “depends on systemd” is being used in two extreme contexts
here. The first is a technical context, where “apt-get install
” fails because of a dependency, and may be trivially fixed
with different build options. The second is “fundamentally and
irrep
> The phase “depends on systemd” is being used in two extreme contexts here.
> The first is a technical context, where “apt-get install ” fails
> because of a dependency, and may be trivially fixed with different build
> options. The second is “fundamentally and irreparably depends on systemd
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Alessandro Selli
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 at 11:19:51 -0400
> John Franklin wrote:
>
>
>> Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current
>> *packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and
>> rebuilt without s
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 11:33 AM, J. Fahrner wrote:
>
> Am 2017-09-20 17:19, schrieb John Franklin:
>
>> Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current
>> *packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and
>> rebuilt without systemd.
>> Give it a try. Plea
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 at 11:19:51 -0400
John Franklin wrote:
> Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current
> *packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and
> rebuilt without systemd.
>
> Give it a try. Please build the gnome packages from scratch and
Am 2017-09-20 17:19, schrieb John Franklin:
Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current
*packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and
rebuilt without systemd.
Give it a try. Please build the gnome packages from scratch and report
back with where
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Erik Christiansen
> wrote:
>
> On 20.09.17 09:55, Svante Signell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 17:41 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>>> On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote:
I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to
>>
On 20.09.17 09:55, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 17:41 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote:
> > > I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to
>
> > > And that's not possible for Gnome, because Gnome depends on syste
On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 17:41 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote:
> > I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to
> > And that's not possible for Gnome, because Gnome depends on systemd.
> > If you want Gnome you have to live with sys
On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote:
> I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to
> enforce Devuan developers to offer Gnome. Devuans goal is to offer a Linux
> system without systemd.
Errr, Devuan's reason for _existing_ is to eschew systemd. Absolutely
nothing can
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