As a follow up to Shumon's email, the order is indeed different than
usual. Normally we schedule current business first, but for
agenda-technical reasons (allowing discussion) we have changed the order.
Hope you understand the exception to the rule.
Best,
-- Benno
On 29/07/2021 21:04, Shum
Dear WG,
We have updated the agenda for DNSOP WG session II on Thursday 29 July.
The updated agenda is uploaded to datatracker:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-dnsop-06
See you all on Thursday!
Suzanne
Tim
Benno
___
Hi all,
As mentioned during the DNSOP WG session yesterday, the Applied
Networking Research Workshop (ANRW 2021) also takes place this week.
On Wednesday 28 July there will be a session on DNS Privacy, see the
programme https://irtf.org/anrw/2021/program.html and scroll down to the
session:
On 21/07/2021 02:11, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Jul 20, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Benno Overeinder wrote:
The DNSOP WG agenda for IETF 111 has been published, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-dnsop-04.
Earlier on the list, there was a discussion about how long the
Dear WG,
The DNSOP WG agenda for IETF 111 has been published, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-dnsop-04.
Best regards,
Suzanne
Tim
Benno
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DNSOP mailing list
DNSOP@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dn
https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/tree/main/dnsop-ietf111 and look
for dnsop-ietf111-agenda-requests.md.
Best regards,
Suzanne
Tim
Benno
> On 16 Jun 2021, at 10:08, Benno Overeinder wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 111 in the wee
Thank you Rob.
I am the document shepherd, but reply with no hats.
I understand the concern, and I am fine with the proposed change.
Best,
-- Benno
On 10/06/2021 18:05, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
Hi DNS Ops,
Warren, Lada and I discussed this further today. Warren and I think that mappi
Hi all,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 111 in the week of 26-30
July 2021.
DNSOP has two sessions requested for the IETF 111:
dnsop Session 1 (2:00 requested)
dnsop Session 2 (1:00 requested)
(The preliminary IETF 111 agenda will be published on 25 June 2021.)
Please
Hi Davey, all,
On 03/06/2021 15:56, Davey Song wrote:
nothing prevents the use of RRSERIAL and NSID in the
resolvers. Last paragraph of RFC5001 section 2.2 says so,
Yes. Thanks for pointing it out.
RFC5001 is already implemented by a number of resolvers.
https://www.powerdns.com/c
provide guidance for operators to pick
sensible NSEC3 parameters and for expected resolver behavior.
-Puneet
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:56 AM Benno Overeinder wrote:
Hi all,
As a follow-up to the presentation by Wes Hardaker at the IETF 110 DNSOP
meeting, we want to start a call for adoption of
Hi all,
As a follow-up to the presentation by Wes Hardaker at the IETF 110 DNSOP
meeting, we want to start a call for adoption of
draft-hardaker-dnsop-nsec3-guidance on the mailing list.
With the presentation at the DNSOP meeting on IETF 110, there was a
sufficient general support in the (vi
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of
draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the
DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type
:59, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Apr 6, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Benno Overeinder wrote:
With the IETF 110 DNSOP meeting, the draft DNS Error Reporting
(draft-arends-dns-error-reporting) is presented by Roy Arends.
In the session, the (virtual) room was asked for adoption of the document or
raise
With the IETF 110 DNSOP meeting, the draft DNS Error Reporting
(draft-arends-dns-error-reporting) is presented by Roy Arends.
In the session, the (virtual) room was asked for adoption of the
document or raise objections. On the mic there was general support for
adoption.
Now we will start a
Dear DNSOP WG,
The minutes of our DNSOP WG meeting at the IETF 110 have been published.
Many thanks to our note-taker Paul Hoffman.
Read and review it, and if there are any omissions, send feedback to the
DNSOP chairs.
You can find the published minutes here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/m
Hi all,
The IETF 110 Agenda is out https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/agenda.
DNSOP has two sessions scheduled:
dnsop Session 1 (1:00 requested)
Thursday, 11 March 2021, Session II 1530-1630
Room Name: Room 4 size: 504
-
dnso
Hi WG,
This is a gentle reminder of the cut-off date for Internet Draft
submission on Monday, February 22.
Please submit your new or revised version of your Internet Draft by the
cut-off date on Monday, February 22, 2021 (UTC 23:59).
Best,
-- Suzanne, Tim and Benno
__
Hi,
For those who want to publish a new Internet Draft (version) for IETF
110, the cut-off is Monday, February 22, 2021 (UTC 23:59).
Four weeks gives the opportunity to consult the WG or contact the WG
chairs well before the cut-off date.
Best,
-- Suzanne, Tim and Benno
__
On 22/12/2020 10:27, Willem Toorop wrote:
Recently, also the ldns library has been extended with zone-digest
functionality. ZONEMD RRs can now be calculated and added with
ldns-signzone , and verified with ldns-verify-zone .
This is available on the develop branch on
https://github.com/N
Hi,
On 22/12/2020 01:07, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Hi Paul,
On 18/12/2020 22:57, Paul Hoffman wrote:
Greetings. Now that ZONEMD is waiting in the RFC Editor's queue, I was
wondering how the developers are coming with implementation. The
protocol is ripe for two-party testing.
We
Hi Paul,
On 18/12/2020 22:57, Paul Hoffman wrote:
Greetings. Now that ZONEMD is waiting in the RFC Editor's queue, I was
wondering how the developers are coming with implementation. The protocol is
ripe for two-party testing.
We have implemented ZONEMD (verification and DNSSEC validation)
Dear WG,
The WGLC period for draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang has finished.
From the comments on the mailing list of DNSOP participants who
contributed and/or provided feedback on the document, I conclude that
the authors have included and processed their comments.
The chairs feel that
Hi all,
The IETF109 Agenda is out https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/109/agenda.html.
DNSOP has two sessions scheduled:
dnsop Session 1 (2:00)
Tuesday, 17 November 2020, Session I 05:00-07:00 UTC
Room Name: Room 4 size: 504
-
dnsop Ses
feedback inline below.
>
> Op 10-10-2020 om 23:13 schreef Brian Dickson:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:38 AM Benno Overeinder > <mailto:be...@nlnetlabs.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>This starts a Working Group Last Call for
>>draft-ietf-dnsop-
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang.
Current versions of the draft are available here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang/
The Current Intended Status of this document is: Standards Track
Benno Overeinder will be
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies.
Current versions of the draft is available here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies/
The Current Intended Status of this document is: Standards Track
FYI, I will not shepherd this document, a
excellent support from the community for your questions.
Kind regards,
Benno Overeinder
DNSOP WG co-chair
On 09/09/2020 05:43, ShubhamGoyal wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear sir,
>> We are running a public DNS
>> resolver in Centos 8 with bind
Dear Roy,
The DNSOP chairs are currently reaching out to the IAB to discuss this
document with the ICANN Liaison. We are following the liaison process,
and once we hear back, we will inform the working group.
Kind regards,
-- Benno
On 04/09/2020 12:19, Roy Arends wrote:
> Pretty please?
>
>
Hi Ben,
> On 15 Jul 2020, at 00:38, Ben Schwartz
> wrote:
>
> Oh, and regardless, we would like some agenda time.
Thanks, we reserve a slot for the draft.
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ben Schwartz wrote:
> DNSOP chairs,
>
> SVCB/HTTPS draft-01 has incorporated a lot of feedback, and I
Dear DNSOP WG,
The NomCom Chair has just send a second call for volunteers for the
NomCom 2020-2021. Consider stepping forward and indicating that you are
available for the 2020-2021 NomCom.
Best regards,
-- Benno
Forwarded Message
Subject: Nomcom 2020-2021 Second Call For
Dear DNSOP WG,
The Webex recordings of our DNSOP WG meetings interim-2020-dnsop-01 and
interim-2020-dnsop-02, on 14 April 2020 and 23 April 2020 respectively,
have been published on the IETF YouTube channel.
14 April 2020: https://youtu.be/-AI02ip4pQE
23 April 2020: https://youtu.be/mz_Ema8dPnQ
Dear all,
The DNSOP WG interim meeting details for today (23 April):
* Date: 23 April 2020
* Time: 1500 - 1600 UTC
* Webex:
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m8d49e59807a47eec1d8cf5fbd4f81fa3
* Jabber: dn...@jabber.ietf.org
* EtherPad:
https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-dn
> ## interim-2020-dnsop-02
>
> * Date: 23 April 2020
> * Time:
> * Webex:
>
> ###
> * Jabber: dn...@jabber.ietf.org
> * EtherPad:
>
> ### Chairs
> * Tim Wicinski tjw.i...@gmail.com
> * Suzanne Woolf suzworldw...@gmail.com
> * Benno Overeinder be.
The DNSOP WG interim meeting on April 23 is scheduled for 15:00-16:00 UTC.
Details about agenda, webex, etherpad will soon be posted to the mailing
list.
Best regards,
-- Benno
On 16/04/2020 10:18, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> Gentle reminder. Poll closes today.
>
> https://doodle
Gentle reminder. Poll closes today.
https://doodle.com/poll/zk9f4ur7fycz3kra
Thank you,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 14/04/2020 18:26, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> Dear DNSOP WG,
>
> Thank you for your time and participation in the DNSOP WG meeting today.
>
> The next D
Dear DNSOP WG,
Thank you for your time and participation in the DNSOP WG meeting today.
The next DNSOP WG interim meeting is scheduled for April 23 and will be
a one hour virtual meeting. To select a timeslot, we again created a
doodle poll:
https://doodle.com/poll/zk9f4ur7fycz3kra
Please
4, 2020
> * Time: 14:00 UTC
> * Webex:
> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m706bba8b48e3db3db02d72f0941b2630
>
> ###
> * Jabber:
> * EtherPad: <https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/interim-2020-dnsop-01>
>
> ### Chairs
> * Tim Wicinski
> * Suzanne Woo
Still 12 hours to fill in the doodle!
https://doodle.com/poll/w7d6vvbvswtt47ry
(And another 6 hours before CET working day starts.)
Thanks!
-- Benno
On 03/04/2020 17:58, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> Gentle reminder to the working group.
>
> Please fill in the doodle before Monday
Gentle reminder to the working group.
Please fill in the doodle before Monday April 6th, end of day (UTC).
https://doodle.com/poll/w7d6vvbvswtt47ry
Best,
-- Benno
On 02/04/2020 01:55, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As Suzanne mentioned in the email of March 22, the IESG has
Hi all,
As Suzanne mentioned in the email of March 22, the IESG has set up a
schedule for virtual interim meetings,
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/wgchairs/raw-attachment/wiki/WikiStart/April2020-RecommendedSchedule.pdf
Two sessions are planned for the DNSOP WG:
- 14 April
- 23 April
The DNSOP WG se
On 14/03/2020 01:38, Paul Vixie wrote:
> since the meeting is now virtual, could we get an extension on the draft
> cutoff for updates?
That sounds reasonable. The IESG recommended the virtual DNSOP meeting
in April (two sessions on two dates). It is a recommendation, but the
IESG has made an e
Hi Karl,
On 2/20/20 10:31 AM, Klaus Malorny wrote:
> thanks all for responding, this was very informative for me. The lack of
> interest for the ANAME draft is a bit pity. We have some customer
> requests in this direction and I was hoping to be able to offer them a
> standards compliant solution.
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of
draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec-03 as Informational on behalf of the
DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-d
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-06 as
Internet Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis/
___
not shepherd this document, as it was written with several
> of my coworkers.
> Benno Overeinder will be Document Shepherd.
>
> Please review the draft and offer relevant comments.
> If this does not seem appropriate please speak out.
> If someone feels the document is *not* rea
and Benno
On 28/10/2019 16:25, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The IETF106 Agenda is out
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/agenda.html and DNSOP has two
> sessions:
>
> Tuesday 17:10-18:40 Tuesday Afternoon session III
>
> Thursday 13:30-15:30 T
On 10/7/19 7:31 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Benno Overeinder wrote:
>
>> Questions to WG:
>>
>> 1) iana-class-type-yang document to OPSAWG?
>
> I would assume most people here will the same about the document,
> wherever it is discussed ?
Hi all,
The IETF106 Agenda is out
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/agenda.html and DNSOP has two
sessions:
Tuesday 17:10-18:40Tuesday Afternoon session III
Thursday 13:30-15:30Thursday Afternoon session I
As with the previous IETF meetings, we are planning the first meeting
for
Belated thanks for your feedback.
I will proceed with the authors for the next step to submit the draft to
the IESG for publication.
Best,
-- Benno
On 10/07/2019 23:41, bert hubert wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:56:26PM +0200, Benno Overeinder wrote:
>> >From the feedback on
av Lhotka
> Cc: Benno Overeinder; DNSOP WG
> Betreff: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoptions:
> draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang
>
> Dear DNSWG,
>
> I also support the adoption.
>
> Normen Kowalewski
>
>> On 22. Jul 2019, at 20:13, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
>>
&g
There is an updated agenda posted on
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-105-dnsop/
Presenters can submit their slides by using the new upload feature in
datatracker, https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/session/dnsop and
click on "Propose Slides".
Cheers,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 15/
Dear DNSOP WG,
This week there are a number of research presentations during the ANWR
and IRTF sessions.
Monday, July 22
---
Applied Networking Research Workshop,
https://irtf.org/anrw/2019/program.html
10:40-12:00 DNS and Security
Who Is Answering My Queries: Understanding and Cha
this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption
by DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
This call for adoption ends: 29 July 2019
Thanks,
Benno Overeinder
DNSOP co-chair
The authors of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis recently posted a new version
-05 to the DNSOP WG mailing list.
>From the feedback on the mailing list, the chairs believe that all
feedback and comments have been addressed by the authors, either in the
draft or on the mailing list.
This starts a Workin
Hi all,
The IETF105 Agenda is out
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/agenda.html and DNSOP has two
sessions
Monday 18:10-19:10 Monday Afternoon session III
Tuesday 10:00-12:00 Tuesday Morning session I
As with the previous IETF meeting, we are planning the shorter (1 hour),
first
On 26/03/2019 23:49, Dan York wrote:
> As Tim Wicinski mentioned in his review of documents today in DNSOP, this is
> not a simple problem to solve and there are some fundamental (and passionate)
> disagreements about the way forward.
>
> Tim’s suggestion of an interim (presumably virtual?) to
Hi,
On 08/03/2019 21:29, Dave Lawrence wrote:
> Huh, My understanding from a hallway conversation with Benno was that
> the immediate response is only sent for names that would have been
> subject to pre-fetching, such that the immediate response in this case
> is sufficiently covered under the g
, introducing
other concerns) and that the problem space is too narrow to burden all
resolvers.
We would like to thank the authors and WG participants who responded to
the call for adoption on the mailing list.
Best regards,
-- Benno
DNSOP co-chair
On 18/01/2019 18:55, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> D
> On 14 Feb 2019, at 16:12, Warren Kumari wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:59 AM Tony Finch wrote:
> Jiankang Yao wrote:
> >
> >A new draft about root data caching is proposed, which aims to solve
> >the similar problem presented in RFC7706 and gives the DNS
> >administra
On 12/02/2019 09:34, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 03:56:04PM +0800,
> zuop...@cnnic.cn wrote
> a message of 546 lines which said:
>
>> DNSSEC is not necessary anymore
>
> This is clearly false. DoH provides _channel security_ DNSSEC provides
> _content security_ (or ob
.
This call for adoption ends: 1 February 2019
Thanks,
Benno Overeinder
DNSOP co-chair
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Hi DNSOP WG,
We are looking for volunteers to take minutes and jabber scribe for the
DNSOP WG meeting this afternoon 13:50-15:50.
Please send an email to dnsop-chairs or reply directly.
Otherwise we'll just have to ask at the start of the meeting.
Thank you very much,
-- Suzanne/Tim/Benno
___
Hi all,
We have requested one DNSOP session of 2 hours for the IETF 103. The
preliminary IETF agenda will be published on October 5th.
Please submit a request for agenda time if you want to present a draft.
We will be following up on several items, but there is also room for new
work.
Thanks,
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix-03
as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrlea
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-12 as
Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf/
___
Hi all,
Procedure/process update.
As announced, the WG LC should/would be closed today, but draft
reviewers suggested to run attrleaf and attrleaf-fix together through
the process. The WG LC will be closed this Wednesday, July 11th for
both attrleaf and attrleaf-fix.
-- Benno
On 07/07/2018 08
And with this, the WG Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel is
closed (actually last Friday already).
We will continue with the next step with the AD for this document, Terry
Manderson.
-- Benno
On 02/07/2018 22:20, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Firstly, thank you! (for keeping the WG inform
A number of reviewers of the accompanying draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
suggested to have both drafts WG Last Call reviewed in one go. We think
this makes sense and the last version of the
draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix-01 is good for WG Last Call.
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-
On 25/06/2018 17:29, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On 25 Jun 2018, at 3:27, Benno Overeinder wrote:
>
>>
>> This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: 9
>> July 2018.
>
> Just to be clear: this is a WG Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
&
The chairs have read the email discussions on the DNSOP mailing list and
think that all feedback and comments have been addressed by the author,
either in the draft or on the mailing list.
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
Current versions of the draft is availab
After the WG last call for the kskroll-sentinel draft, a number of
issues were discussed and settled. The co-chairs want to announce a
second WG last call of *one* week. We think the document is ready, but
we want to give the working group the opportunity for a final reading.
This starts a Work
Hi,
On 11/06/2018 22:15, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2018, at 12:43, Job Snijders wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth - all my concerns have been addressed.
>
> +1 to Job's feeling.
Thank you all.
>> I believe
>> the document to be in good shape now and would support a progression
>> through W
Reacting on the "when to implement" part of the subject, and speaking
for NLnet Labs.
On 08/05/2018 11:11, Peter van Dijk wrote:
>> From implementors point, it makes little sense to start implementing
>> before the protocol change is almost fully baked (aka WGLC and
>> further), because until then
To followup on myself, and was dropped with quoting email.
On 09/05/2018 15:12, Benno Overeinder wrote:
>
> Implementation reports/observations for BIND and Unbound have been sent
> to the mailing list.
>
For the future, if the DNSOP working group likes to see an
implementation
Hi all,
(Speaking as implementer/NLnet Labs.)
To update all readers of this thread.
On 09/05/2018 14:56, Job Snijders wrote:
> Publishing draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel as RFC on the Standards
> Track - without implementations - is, plainly said, not very IETF-like.
> But I'm happy to observe
Im appointing a 3rd chair for DNSOP, to help
> with the load, etc.
>
> A number of people kindly volunteered, and I had a really hard time
> selecting from such qualified candidates. After agonizing over it for
> a few weeks, I've decided to appoint Benno Overeinder.
>
&
Hi Suzanne, Warren, DNSOP WG,
> On 7 Apr 2018, at 04:09, Warren Kumari wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:
>>
>>
>> WG vendors/implementers: Can folks who have implemented kskroll-sentinel, or
>> considered implementing it, please speak up on your concerns/plans?
On 07/02/2018 10:12, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Whoops, last message was blank; finger fail.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Petr Špaček wrote:
>>>
>>> Fine. Now we need to have something actionable, e.g. set of names for
>>> Geoff to te
I support adoption and will review the draft.
-- Benno
On 11/16/2017 09:23 AM, tjw ietf wrote:
> All
>
> The author has rolled out a new version addressing comments from the
> meeting on Monday, and we feel it’s ready to move this along.
>
> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-huston-kskr
On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Lican Huang wrote:
Right. Domain names are persistent identifiers. In the future,
it is not ridiculous to map domain names to other unique IDs other
than IP addresses.
Persistent is not the same as stable identifiers as Stephane
mentioned. Stable means no
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