I noted comments about not being able to access
e-gold's site yesterday.
On Wednesday for more than half a day, I was not able
to access the site, yet at the same time, Paul, Ice
Gold reported no problems.
Friday morning, and the problems is repeating, I
cannot access e-gold.
Does anybody know
Hettinga wrote:
> At 9:22 PM -0400 on 5/23/01, Craig Spencer wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All "digital bearer
> > instrument" schemes require a central clearing mechanism to
> > prevent double spending. This amounts to an account based system.
>
> Fortunately, :-
Please will the Magazine Depot Owner contact me
Thanks
Geoff
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> I don't see what the problem is unless you can't figure out the
> tax code.
According to the General Accounting Office, the IRS can't figure out the tax
code!
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I don't see what the problem is unless you can't figure out the tax code. I
don't operate a business but I have lots of buys and spends because I'm a
dabbler and I only have to have to put up with my own mess. Nevertheless I
use Microsoft Money and count my ounces of gold as you would shares of
st
BTW Sam, I'm not entirely sure you get email I send directly to you!
(DNS woe?) I mentioned, just email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to claim
your refund man! Rock on!
TWO MORE UTTERLY FREE ORDERS TO GO -- YOU MUST HAVE NOT USED BANANAGOLD BEFORE.
**TOTALLY FREE**
>Yep, I bought _How to Steal Food f
On 24 May 2001, at 2:07, Viking Coder wrote:
> Instead of restricting
> where you can't go, the firewall would restrict where you can go.
Well I didn't know that some firewalls were doing that. Mine does
not restrict on the destination, but put a restriction on the origin. In
other words, I a
Yep, I bought _How to Steal Food from the Supermarket_, the book that
promises to teach you how to purloin some sirloin, how to poach eggs.
Okay, not very libertarian, but highly entertaining.
>
>
> one person has already gotten $50 worth of free stuff -- TWO MORE
> FREE ORDERS TO GO.
>
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one person has already gotten $50 worth of free stuff -- TWO MORE
FREE ORDERS TO GO.
(i) you must have never used http://bananagold.com before
(ii) if you spend more than $50, fine, but you'll only get the first $50 back!
Enjoy!
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An incredibly important announcement!
the next three orders under $50 total at http://bananagold.com , by
people WHO HAVE NEVER USED BANANAGOLD BEFORE, will be UTTERLY FREE!
(All your address/number/etc data will be checked .. don't try to be
clever, Jim! :) )
Just buy your stuff, and then em
>DigiGold Ltd. maintains that the contract between DigiGold Ltd. and
>Systemics has not been terminated; therefore, this is obviously a matter of
>dispute.
>
I think you'd probably have to like, pay, Systemics to not-terminate
your contract!
>Each DigiGold XXG is presently entirely backed by i
Unfortunately, that story means that
OS Gold is super for specific purposes and customers.
but it also means
OS Gold is not a player as a currency.
Just last night i spent THIRTY THOUSAND dollars of gold, to a market
maker I was selling wholesale to (you know who you are, you
For what it's worth, purely in my opinion, that could very easil be
"sniffed" by a sniffer designed fo rthe purpose.
>The National Australia Bank Internet Banking has overcome any possibility of
>keyboard sniffing, as their Internet Banking program is a separate Java
>Internet client, and the on
DigiGold Ltd. maintains that the contract between DigiGold Ltd. and
Systemics has not been terminated; therefore, this is obviously a matter of
dispute.
Each DigiGold XXG is presently entirely backed by its corresponding e-metal:
http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=105310
http://www.e-gold.c
On 24 May 2001, at 12:22, Vince Callaway wrote:
> Is there any interest out there for exchanging E-Gold for real gold?
Vince,
I had such requests from some of my clients.
Claude
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> That's how I'd love to do it, but I'm not sure the IRS would approve.
>
> Suppose, for example, that I receive an ounce of E-Gold in revenue at a
time
> when an ounce goes for $300. Okay, I mark it in the books as $300 in
> revenue. Then Alan Greenspan goes on a bender and starts "injecting
> li
I am considering offering gold mapleleafs and small gold bars on my
website.
Is there any interest out there for exchanging E-Gold for real gold?
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> When I offer services or products to people I always quote grams or
> ounces, doing it any other way is well, wrong.
But for US tax purposes, you have to know the dollar equivalent.
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On 24 May 2001, at 10:48, Vince Callaway wrote:
> When I offer services or products to people I always quote grams or
> ounces, doing it any other way is well, wrong.
Vince,
I couldn't agree more. We do same.
Claude
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On 24 May 2001, at 13:42, Samuel Mc Kee wrote:
> My concern is not with the tax itself, but with the enormous complexity
> that arrises trying to manage a FIFO system of accounting for what
> centigram was "bought" or "sold" (for practical purposes) when and for how
> much when the number of tran
> > So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
> > payment.
>
> I think you misread the note. It looked as if osgold contacted the other
> account holder and they did the refund, not osgold.
: 2001-05-23 00:03:56 638632 10005584 OSOPPS 10014478 International Money
On Thu, 24 May 2001, SnowDog wrote:
> Treat e-gold like a foreign currency. With each transaction is an exchange
> rate. You can use the amount of gold, and the exchange rate to get a US
> dollar equivalent for each transaction in your accounting system.
Now you know why I exchange gold by the gr
On 24 May 2001, at 13:21, Samuel Mc Kee wrote:
> Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running
> E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has
> anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain
> recordkeeping in the E-Go
> Treat e-gold like a foreign currency. With each transaction is an exchange
> rate. You can use the amount of gold, and the exchange rate to get a US
> dollar equivalent for each transaction in your accounting system.
That's how I'd love to do it, but I'm not sure the IRS would approve.
Suppose
> There's a fourth way - they could have just eaten the $10 and paid it out to
> keep a happy customer.
>
That is exactly what option number 3 is.
> > 3) Leave the original payment intact, and spend the refund from their own
> > account.
> > Viking Coder
> >
> > Worth Two Cent
> Actually, that isn't necessary. Dr. Stephen Brands of Zero Knowledge has
> developed a system called digital credentials that does digital signatures
> using zero-knowledge proofs. You could use smart cards as digital signature
> devices without giving away your identity. It's rather fascinat
I'm not in America, but isn't capital gains tax only for long term ( > 12
months ) investments? E-Gold is not an investment it is a currency, and
trading profits or foreign exchange profits or losses are simply income.
Treat it just like Pounds Sterling, Euro or Yen, surely!
> -Original Messa
> Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running
> E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has
> anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain
> recordkeeping in the E-Gold system? It seems to me capital gains
> calcu
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Viking Coder wrote:
>
> So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
> payment.
I think you misread the note. It looked as if osgold contacted the other
account holder and they did the refund, not osgold.
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There's a fourth way - they could have just eaten the $10 and paid it out to
keep a happy customer.
- Original Message -
From: "Viking Coder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: How is this for ser
Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running
E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has
anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain
recordkeeping in the E-Gold system? It seems to me capital gains
calculations wou
At 11:54 AM -0500 5/24/01, SnowDog wrote:
>With all due respect, this is another reason to suspect that they might not
>be credible. Refunding that payment is a violation of their terms of
>service, unless they got the explicit permission of the account to which the
>money was sent.
Well surely
"I have strong issues against using smart cards. Widespread, everyday use
of smart cards will be an end to the few remaining shreds of privacy that we
still have. Why not simply implant microchips into everybody? It is
basically the same thing."
Actually, that isn't necessary. Dr. Stephen Brand
> any way the next day I received another email message telling
> me that it would be refunded to me...
>
> This morning when I looked in my account there was the
> refund
So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
payment.
There is only 3 ways that they could have
At 10:37 AM 05/24/2001 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>For the record, can those who know post up some suggestions of good
>programs that can be run on Windows machines to look for keyboard
>sniffers? I already use anti-v and firewall software (ZoneAlarm), but
>some sort of scanning software tha
Hi everyone
I just had to tell you about this!
I have a private club called International Money Club.
I set up an OsGold account a few weeks ago for the
club. Well when they came out with the OSOPPS site
last week I offered to all the club members that
signed up under the IMC (International
For the record, can those who know post up some suggestions of good
programs that can be run on Windows machines to look for keyboard
sniffers? I already use anti-v and firewall software (ZoneAlarm), but
some sort of scanning software that can be run periodically would be
handy, too (paranoia
> Yeah, but if a trojan is written to send everything back to the thief, it
> will certainly be noticed. The user's computer will only run HALF as fast
> and the thief will be overloaded with data.
If I were to turn to the dark side, I'd write a Trojan horse that just logs
the stuff locally and
Works ok here.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Mark S. Ohberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-gold Site Down?
> Mr. C,
>
> Down here in NY too
>
> The end user's attempt to connect to the s
Mr. C,
Down here in NY too
The end user's attempt to connect to the server has failed. This could
be either a server- or network-specific problem. Details of the event,
including an indication of how far the connection attempt progressed
from the end user to the server, are provided below.
Deta
Can someone tell me if the e-gold site is up? It looks down form
our end!
Claude
http://www.goldcurrencies.ca
http://www.ormetal.com
==
Claude Cormier Public Key
http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html
==
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I am advocating a separate login name from the publicly-known account number
not simply to foil hackers, but to prevent denial of service type attacks.
Anyone at present can lock out any e-gold account he chooses simply by using
the account number and typing an incorrect password a few times! This
The National Australia Bank Internet Banking has overcome any possibility of
keyboard sniffing, as their Internet Banking program is a separate Java
Internet client, and the only way to enter a password is by clicking on an
image of a keyboard in a movable small window, so the password is never
ty
Mondex presented that model a few years back. (It may still be on
www.mondex.com ?)I am still waiting for it, but it will take a major
corporation like that to get the computer manufacturers to do it.
Regards,
Ian Green
> -Original Message-
> The catch is the card readers. If PC and
At 9:22 PM -0400 on 5/23/01, Craig Spencer wrote:
> Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All "digital bearer
> instrument"
> schemes require a central clearing mechanism to prevent double
> spending. This
> amounts to an account based system.
Fortunately, :-), it doesn't. I've gone ove
> Good... until two weeks later when somebody writes a trojan virus that
> intercepts anything, and everything, at the browser-level before it leaves
> the computer. The trojan then sends out the gathered info to it's
> recipient without the mark even knowing anything has happened.
Yeah, but if a
Hi Guys
Vince Callaway kindly pointed out that there was a problem with the E Gold
Form on VW Online, I have now put it right so if anyone wants any strictly
limited edition, VW Online Merchandise, go to
http://www.vw-online.co.uk/htdocs/merchandise.htm
We ship to the USA and anywhere else for th
On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:49:58 -0400 "Samuel Mc Kee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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>> Saying "log in number!" is no different from saying "password!".
>> It's just A LONGER PASSWORD.
>>
>> It means absolutely nothing.
i see:) hearing is just for justice(s):)
>
>Are we learning yet?
>
i (king|am) n
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