Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Stan Brown
William B. Ware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Anyway, more to the point... the "add one" is an old argument based on the >notion of "real limits." Suppose the range of scores is 50 to 89. It was >argued that 50 really goes down to 49.5 and 89 really goes up to >89.5. Thus the rang

Re: Help

2001-10-05 Thread david007
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2001-10-05 Thread david007
i haven't touch statistics materials for many years so i need someone be so kind to help me out with this simple problem: Tossing a fair coin n times. Let A denote the maximum run length, i.e. the largest number of consecutive heads we get among the n tosses. Find E(A) for the case n=10. The an

Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Jonathan Robbins
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >jeff rasmussen wrote: >> >> Dear statistically-enamored, >> >> There was a question in my undergrad class concerning how to >>define the >> range, where a student pointed out that contrary to my edict,

Re: MCAS, statistics and other math problems

2001-10-05 Thread dennis roberts
At 12:41 PM 10/5/01 -0500, Christopher J. Mecklin wrote: >(4) If the Massachusetts Department of Education really wants to include a >boxplot item on the test, it should either be a multiple choice question >written so that the correct answer is the same no matter which type of >boxplot one w

Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Paul Bernhardt
William B. Ware said on 10/5/01 8:58 AM: >I don't think I understand your argument... Are you saying that the >"descriptive statistic" should be invariant over scale? > >Anyway, more to the point... the "add one" is an old argument based on the >notion of "real limits." Suppose the range of scor

Re: MCAS, statistics and other math problems

2001-10-05 Thread Christopher J. Mecklin
Dr. Gallagher and Edstat newsgroup: Here's my take on the MCAS and boxplots. (1) I agree with Eugene Gallagher and others in that the question about boxplots on the MCAS is poor, since the correct answer depends on whether you learned the "Tukey" boxplot (that indicates outliers) or the "quick"

Re: MCAS, statistics and other math problems

2001-10-05 Thread NoSpam54
Thanks, and moral support is appreciated. MCAS is very controversial in MA. None of the major papers have yet called into question the test itself. Now, the DOE apparently is saying that they stand behind every question. I believe it might help if the MA DOE MCAS group, headed by Jeff Nellha

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2001-10-05 Thread Seymann, Richard
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Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Dennis Roberts
i think that the +1 is reasonable IF, we have a potentially continuous variable that, for convenience, we put tick marks at arbitrary points ... such as a 50 item test ... we let scores be 23, or 24, or 25, etc. IF the assumption is that knowledge is continuous ... then i don't see anything am

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2001-10-05 Thread Scheltema, Karen
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Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
"William B. Ware" wrote: > > Robert, > > I don't think I understand your argument... Are you saying that the > "descriptive statistic" should be invariant over scale? Yes, of course. Otherwise it's a description of the process of measuring, not of what is being measured. > > Anyway

Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread William B. Ware
Robert, I don't think I understand your argument... Are you saying that the "descriptive statistic" should be invariant over scale? Anyway, more to the point... the "add one" is an old argument based on the notion of "real limits." Suppose the range of scores is 50 to 89. It was argued that 50

Re: MCAS, statistics and other math problems

2001-10-05 Thread Dennis Roberts
gene ... we have been through this sort of discussion before and i, for one, totally sympathize with you in this situation ... but, it is difficult for outsiders ... outside of mass. (not being residents or parents of impacted kids) ... to really know how to respond to this and what to do abou

Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
jeff rasmussen wrote: > > Dear statistically-enamored, > > There was a question in my undergrad class concerning how to define the > range, where a student pointed out that contrary to my edict, the range was > "the difference between the maximum & minimum". I'd always believed that >

RE: MCAS, statistics and other math problems

2001-10-05 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 07:03 AM 10/5/01 -0500, Olsen, Chris wrote: >Professor Gallagher and All -- > > >It would appear that neither the "appeal systems" nor a claim of >"technical adequacy" would be a response to your concern about bad >questions. The claim of technical adequacy, i.e. "that good students tend

"Pluma y Fuente" Nº 181 del 05/10/2001.

2001-10-05 Thread Pluma
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RE: MCAS, statistics and other math problems

2001-10-05 Thread Olsen, Chris
Professor Gallagher and All -- Let me first of all absolutely commend your professional interest, time, and dedication to fair testing practice! With high stakes testing apparently the fad of this particular few years in public education, fairness is -- if posible -- an even more important co