[pot@gnu.org: Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.]

2001-03-14 Thread Francesco Potorti`
Well, I tried to write a message for the Emacs developers and pretesters lists, but could not manage to write anything that would make sense. I suspect that we (ar at least it's me) do not have ideas clear enough to be explained outside of here. In fact, I do not manage to make a resume of

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Pete Forman wrote: > Daniel Pittman writes: > > As such, I want to propose an alternate tag to indicate our own > > paths: > > > >"/!/" [...] > I agree with you but would like to take it further. How about > reworking the whole syntax along these lines. > > /![@en

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 13 Mar 2001, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> "Pete" == Pete Forman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> /![@enc]/:telnet://[usr[:pwd]@]host1[:port]/ssh://host2/:/path/to/file > [...] >> F tramp-prefix-authority"//:" or "#" > > Clearly ""//:"" won't do since Emacs tends to interpret it directly.

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Francesco Potorti` wrote: >> As such, I want to propose an alternate tag to indicate our own >> paths: >> >>"/!/" > >Seconded. > > I still do not like it at all. It's completely different from anything > that is done out there. There is a quasi-stand

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: > I agree with Francesco. I don't like "/!/" at all. The prefix will be changeable, using custom, with no trouble at all. > First off, I have to use the shift key to type the exclamation point. So, pick something different. "/tramp/" is available.

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 13 Mar 2001, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> "Francesco" == Francesco Potorti` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Emacs should have a general hook for /[^/]+:.* filenames, where [^/]+ >> is the protocol. Then, different packages could register to that hook >> and tell it which protocol they do manage.

Re: [pot@gnu.org: Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.]

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > Well, I tried to write a message for the Emacs developers and > pretesters lists, but could not manage to write anything that would > make sense. I am happy to offer what help I can. I would like to see a good solution to the issue forged. > I su

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 14 Mar 2001, Kai Großjohann wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > >> In the long run, perhaps. But if we think that this is The Right >> Thing, then we should make this discussion go public, and at least >> hear from others. > > I think RMS has said he wants it, if somebo

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Edward J. Sabol
On 15-Mar-2001, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: >> I agree with Francesco. I don't like "/!/" at all. > The prefix will be changeable, using custom, with no trouble at all. Yes, that's always been the case, but I strongly feel that the default should be wisely

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Kai Großjohann
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: > On 15-Mar-2001, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> The prefix will be changeable, using custom, with no trouble at >> all. > > Yes, that's always been the case, but I strongly feel that the > default should be wisely chosen. Finding the default shouldn't ke

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Edward J. Sabol
>>> The prefix will be changeable, using custom, with no trouble at all. >> Yes, that's always been the case, but I strongly feel that the >> default should be wisely chosen. > Finding the default shouldn't keep Daniel from implementing it, I > think. After all, this is the development version! I

check in by grossjoh: 'tramp/lisp tramp.el,2.9 ChangeLog,2.8'

2001-03-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/tramp/lisp In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/kai/tramp-devel/tramp/lisp Modified Files: tramp.el ChangeLog Log Message: (tramp-methods, tramp-telnet-args): New method parameter `tramp-telnet-args'. (tramp-get-telnet-args): New function. (t

check in by grossjoh: 'tramp/texi .cvsignore,2.1'

2001-03-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/tramp/texi In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/kai/tramp-devel/tramp/texi Modified Files: .cvsignore Log Message: Ignore *.vrs.

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Kai Großjohann
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: > It's nice to say that users can customize the tramp prefix if they > want to, but the reality is that few people will customize it. All I'm saying it's enough to choose wisely before going stable :-) Of course you're right, except for the `easy to t

Telnet connection with extra args

2001-03-14 Thread Kai Großjohann
I have now added the `tramp-telnet-args' method parameter, similar to all the other foo-args method parameters. However, I haven't tested this. Some of you wanted this. I think Harry and Ted? Could you please test this version? (New version in CVS, head branch, not stable.) kai -- Be indisc

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: > On 15-Mar-2001, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: >>> I agree with Francesco. I don't like "/!/" at all. >> The prefix will be changeable, using custom, with no trouble at all. > > Yes, that's always been the case,

Re: TRAMP2 path definitions.

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 14 Mar 2001, Kai Großjohann wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Edward J. Sabol wrote: > >> On 15-Mar-2001, Daniel Pittman wrote: [...] >>> It's hard to support, requires hacking the innards of other >>> packages and introduces load-order dependencies in the packages. >> >> Correct me if I'm wron