Dec. 8, 2000 EMC/Telco/Product Safety Update Now Available

2000-12-12 Thread Glen Dash
The Curtis-Straus Update for the week ending Dec. 8, 2000 is now available at: http://www.conformity-update.com This week's headlines are: TELCO POWER LINE CROSS CAUSES 210 TO FLEE. SLIM 6 IS HERE. HOST OF NEW EMC STANDARDS ISSUED BY IEC. DEBATE CONTINUES OVER OSHA'S ERGONOMIC REGS. FCC ISSUES

Re: Passive PFC (original post by lfresea...@aol.com)

2000-12-12 Thread Patrick Lawler
I was getting ahead of myself (and the standard). Yes, there is a transistion period. Apparently, until January 2004 you can choose to use ammendment 14 or not. The CENELEC web site reports: DOR 2000-10-03 DAV 2000-10-19 DOA 2000-12-01 DOP 2001-01-01 DOW 2004-01-01 On Tue, 12 Dec 2000

RE: CE Marking Passive devices

2000-12-12 Thread Maxwell, Chris
Yes, there is a reason. There is a "Toy Directive" which (I'm on unfamiliar ground here) deals mostly with child safety. As such, some really passive hunks of plastic (i.e. "Barbie" Dolls (and "Ken" Dolls, for gender equality) come with CE marks on them. When it comes to children, any piece of

Re: CE Marking Passive devices

2000-12-12 Thread Ted . Eckert
There are a number of CE marking directives including 88/378/EEC Toy Safety. Before toys may be shipped into Europe they must be tested for safety and marked with the CE mark if they comply. The relevant standard is EN 71, Safety of Toys; Specification for Mechanical and Physical Properties. E

Re: CE Marking Passive devices

2000-12-12 Thread Brian Jones
Ralph Toy Safety Directive, 88/378/EEC. For more information, have a look at www.europa.eu.int/scadplus/leg/en/lvb/121005.htm Best wishes Brian Jones EMC Consultant and Competent Body Signatory - Original Message - From: Ralph Cameron To: Courtland Thomas ; emcpost Sent: Tuesday, De

RE: CE Marking Passive devices

2000-12-12 Thread Patricia Elliot (EWU)
Toys must meet the Toy Directive, which is completely separate from the EMC or LVD. Patty Elliot Ericsson Wireless Communications patricia.ell...@ericsson.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Cameron [mailto:ral...@igs.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:17 AM To: Courtland Thomas; em

RE: SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread Gary McInturff
Multiple Listing can also be done. The only advantage under that scheme beyond the one listed below. Is that none of the paperwork or the id number ever refers to the OEM. It really looks like the multiple Listee is the designer manufacturer. It costs a few hundred to do so, but some clients prefe

Reminder, Today, December Meeting of SCV Chapter of the EMC Society

2000-12-12 Thread Hans Mellberg
Free food and soft-drinks will be available till theyre gone, starting at 5:30pm! Everyone interested in the topis is invited to attend. This month's meeting of the Santa Clara Valley Chapter of the IEEE EMC Society is presenting: Richard Nute, who will give us a presentation on equipotentiali

RE: SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread Mike Campi
Courtland - If Customer 'DEF' doesn't mind your file number on the Listing label you can ask UL to use your file number instead of your company's name to identify the manufacturer. It is a minor report revision that UL has done many times before. It saves the trouble and time of going through the

RE: Passive PFC (original post by lfresea...@aol.com)

2000-12-12 Thread Lesmeister, Glenn
...and thus you might not comply. Has the new A14 been given a DOP and DOW? I haven't seen it yet. Normally, when new requirements are published there is a DOW for existing requirements. Isn't it typically about 4 years? If you've been gearing up to meet the existing EN61000-3-2 how could you

Re: CE Marking Passive devices

2000-12-12 Thread Ralph Cameron
Many passive plastic and paper toys coming from China carry the CE label. Is there a reason for it ? Ralph Cameron EMC Consultiant and Suppression of Consumer Electronics (After sale) - Original Message - From: "Courtland Thomas" To: "emcpost" Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:36 PM

Re: Passive PFC (original post by lfresea...@aol.com)

2000-12-12 Thread Patrick Lawler
When systems are tested using these techniques, make sure the latest version of EN61000-3-2 is used, incorporating Ammendment 14. Previously, simple techniques could be used to modify the input current waveform, and distort it outside the 'special waveform' envelope shown in figure 1 of the stand

RE: SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Courtland, When we get a product listed we only use our part number for the listing as a way to identify the product, we do not use a product name. That way so long as the part number does not change the Listing will still be valid no matter what product name is on the unit. We even put variables

Re: ESD Floor waxing

2000-12-12 Thread Barry Ma
Michael, The ESD Association seems to be at http://www.esda.org/. Regards, -Barry --- On Mon, 11 December 2000, michael.garret...@radisys.com wrote: > The ESD Association (http://www.eosesd.org) in the US and the The British > Electrostatic Control Association (http://www.beca.

RE: SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread Aschenberg, Mat
Courtland, We list the product with UL under a generic Regulatory ID number. This has many advantages. 1) We can change the model number as often as we like without having to resubmit to UL, given that the hardware doesn't change. 2) We can sell the product under other verndor's names without resu

Re: SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread mike harris
Hi Courtland, First some observations: UL only grants rights to use UL marks. Other labs can test to UL standards, but they would grant their own marks. UL has Listed & Recognized Component & other certifications, but not "approval". In UL terms, Multiple Listing "ML" is where company X (Basic L

RE: SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread WOODS
The product displays the name of the manufacturer and the model number. The name of the manufacturer may be changed at will without amending the UL report if the file number is listed near the UL Listing mark. However, if you wish to change the model number, then the UL report must be amended or a

SAFETY LISTING

2000-12-12 Thread Courtland Thomas
Hello group, I have a concern about Product Names with respect to the Safety Listing. Let's say that we get a product tested through a testing lab and get UL approval. The product name is 'ABC'. A customer comes along and wants the product name changed to 'DEF'. Nothing else has changed on the pr

CE Marking Passive devices

2000-12-12 Thread Courtland Thomas
Hello group, I would like to know if there are any requirements for CE Marking a cable or any passive device, such as a basic surge protector. Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Tech

Re:RE: Labelling for EN 60529 "Degrees of protection provide

2000-12-12 Thread Jim Bacher
forwarding for masse...@ems-t.com Reply Separator Subject:RE: Labelling for EN 60529 "Degrees of protection provided b Author: "Massey; Doug C." List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 12/11/00 5:54 PM IEC-529 is usually invoked by another s

Luminaire Controller to Save Energy

2000-12-12 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, I am trying to search for safety standards to investigate a luminaire dital controller for use with all types of road lamps to save energy. The 3-phase controller is located within an outdoor environmental enclosure and has RS232 and RS485 interface. Is IEC/EN 60 1010 a good standard to

Electronic Soft Starters and Variable Speed Drives

2000-12-12 Thread Peter Merguerian
Hello Group, Trying to identify if there are any new requirements in Europe for electronic soft starters and variable speed drives for motors. What are the standards developed today to determine presumption of conformity with the LVD and/or Machinery Directive and the EMC Directive? Peter Mergu

Re: TNV to Earth Insulation Requirement

2000-12-12 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, Assume you have equipment with external power earthed (Class 1) power supply with an earthed appliance inlet for conenction to the mains. The power supply output is connected to a dc unit with a TNV-2 interface with no separation to SELV. The dc unit has a earth stud for connection of a

Re: EFT DC blocking capacitor question

2000-12-12 Thread Tony J. O'Hara
Sorry this is a little late, but it is Schaffner's official response to the recent question from Antonio Cinquino Re: EFT DC blocking capacitor on Dec 5th. {Posted by Tony O'Hara 12/11/2000, LARCTEC Marketing, Colorado] Re: EFT DC blocking capacitor question from Antonio Cinquino To the EMC Dicu

RE: Application of CE Mark

2000-12-12 Thread Praveen Rao
Cyril, "CE" marking the packaging is hassle free transportation of goods within Europe. As you say, this will prevent the toll gate officials from tampering your packs. If your packaging has "CE" marks and also a copy of DOC (preferrably in a plastic bag affixed to your packaging)the officials ha