Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-04-05 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 29/03/2015 9:47 am, Jérôme Pinguet wrote: By the way Daniel, thanks for your GPG best practices page and more generally for your work related to GPG, Riseup and Debian! :-) I often refer to Riseup GPG Best practices during the cryptoparties I organize in Marseille. Great to hear that at

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-04-05 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 5/04/2015 11:50 pm, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: On 05.04.15 15:41, Ben McGinnes wrote: However, if you're in real trouble from this, the version of pinentry and gpg-agent I have running with GPG 2.1.2 include a little tick box which allows the passphrase to be visible when you type it in.

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-04-05 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 26/03/2015 9:36 am, Andre Lahmann wrote: Ok, just for the record: this is an issue with pinentry - see e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry/+bug/326132 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1374 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1368 It's absolutely ridiculous how

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/03/2015 10:32, Samir Nassar wrote: On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:26:53 AM Anne Wilson wrote: Personally I prefer my password to be reference to a book - and you haven't a snowball in hell's chance of knowing which book or what reference to it

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Philip Jackson
On 28/03/15 20:30, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: I quite like the Keepass approach. But it's not clear to me that this will work, at least for the versions of pinentry i've seen that grab the input devices (i'm seeing this on X11, at any rate). In this case, I don't think there is a way to

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Samir Nassar
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:26:53 AM Anne Wilson wrote: Personally I prefer my password to be reference to a book - and you haven't a snowball in hell's chance of knowing which book or what reference to it :-) I doubt if even my closest family would guess the book. You might be wrong, you

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/03/2015 19:30, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: I suppose the underlying question is whether you think the user's OpenPGP passphrase is one of these strong passphrases that they should be able to remember, or whether you think it should be

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/29/15 2:32 AM, Samir Nassar wrote: On Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:26:53 AM Anne Wilson wrote: Personally I prefer my password to be reference to a book - and you haven't a snowball in hell's chance of knowing which book or what reference to it :-) I doubt if even my closest family would

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/28/15 11:57 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: If the only concern is leaving sensitive data in the clipboard after use, maybe pinentry could*accept* pastes, but then also clear the clipboard after it was pasted into? First, this discussion is moot because Werner won't change this. Second,

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
[redirecting to gnupg-devel, setting mail-followup-to: there] On Wed 2015-03-25 18:26:38 -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: My guess is that this is for added security. Correct. Werner Koch has said several times that he will not change the code to permit CP into the dialog box, as that would

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/28/15 12:30 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: [so much for following up on gpg-devel; i'm replying to enigmail because that's where this message went, even though i don't understand the reason to keep this non-enigmail discussion here] On Sat 2015-03-28 15:09:15 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-28 Thread Jérôme Pinguet
On 03/28/2015 08:30 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: [so much for following up on gpg-devel; i'm replying to enigmail because that's where this message went, even though i don't understand the reason to keep this non-enigmail discussion here] On Sat 2015-03-28 15:09:15 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-26 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
On 25.03.15 23:36, Andre Lahmann wrote: Ok, just for the record: this is an issue with pinentry - see e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry/+bug/326132 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1374 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1368 It's absolutely ridiculous how

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Robert J. Hansen
My guess is that this is for added security. Correct. Werner Koch has said several times that he will not change the code to permit CP into the dialog box, as that would leave sensitive data in your clipboard -- and the clipboard, by definition, can be read by any application, including

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Andre Lahmann
Ok, just for the record: this is an issue with pinentry - see e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pinentry/+bug/326132 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1374 https://bugs.g10code.com/gnupg/issue1368 It's absolutely ridiculous how usability is screwed by design and justified with

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Andre Lahmann
Hmm, I just tried it with GPGv1.4 but the pinentry dialogbox still does not allow copy and pasting... doesn't seem to be a GPGvX related issue or am I getting you wrong? Best, André Am 25.03.2015 um 22:44 schrieb mich...@yanovich.net: On 03/25/2015 05:40 PM, Andre Lahmann wrote: Hello,

Re: [Enigmail] Paste passphrase from clipboard into pinentry dialogbox

2015-03-25 Thread Jérôme Pinguet
On 03/25/2015 10:40 PM, Andre Lahmann wrote: Hello, since upgrading to Enigmail 1.8.x it's not possible anymore to paste the passphrase into the pinentry dialogbox. I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 and neither ctrl+v nor mouse buffer is working (as I am managing my passphrases with keepass I also