[E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-07-03 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
heyo, I spent several hours today examining pulseaudio, planning to start hacking on the mixer code. What I discovered is very depressing: * libpulseaudio REQUIRES glib and REQUIRES glib main loop. literally. they're params for pa_context_new(). this is doable, but not at all in the context of

[E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-25 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Hi all, Finally had time to check the pulseaudio mixer in E17 and while it work, I do have some concerns regarding things below: - talking bare metal PA protocol is cumbersome, DBus API is the way to go according to developers; - sticking (id + 1) to address cards and channels, while the actua

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-07-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:56:29 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: you could write a small executable to query/set the mixer props - and that small binary can use glib... now... if there is an api to swizzle with PA. there thus MUSt be a protocol it talks to PA. this protocol must obviously then exist in

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-07-03 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:56:31 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:56:29 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > > you could write a small executable to query/set the mixer props - and that > small binary can use glib... ironically, having written a similar CF for eeze mo

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: going to have to kill off your dbus idea. reality is the pa dbus api is experimental (testing branch). i'm staring here at ubuntu 11.04 - no pulseaudio dbus service. as jeff said: k-s: i heard the dbus interface is in a testing b

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: > > going to have to kill off your dbus idea. reality is the pa dbus api is > experimental (testing branch). i'm staring here at ubuntu 11.04 - no > pulseaudio > dbus

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > > > > going to have to kill off your dbus idea. reality is the pa dbus api is > > exper

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread Jeff Hoogland
I am the only one that has to cringe every time he hears the words "pulse audio"? On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler > > wrote: > > > > > > On Su

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> > said: >> > >> > going to h

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > > > > going to have to kill off your dbus idea. reality is the pa dbus api is > > experi

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: > >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> > said: >> > >> > going to hav

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:14:44 -0500 Jeff Hoogland wrote: > I am the only one that has to cringe every time he hears the words > "pulse audio"? I actually like it. :-P Definitely looks like you better get used to it though. Don't think it's going away any time soon. Raster does not seem keen o

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 22:22, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: > >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> > said: >> > >> > going to have

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:44:06 +0200 Thomas Gstädtner said: if we take your view that the only thing that matters in a release is sitting and waiting 6+ months for a distro to package it, then why do we care about release at all? reality is this: we release as source tarballs "day 1" and there wil

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-27 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:07:10 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > why 50%? u REALLY think people upgrade their distribution instantly? > i don't know what bizarre world you live in but they don't. they > often lag behind the actual release (in fact the majority do i'd say) > by at leas

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-28 Thread Boris Faure
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 23:22, David Seikel wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:14:44 -0500 Jeff Hoogland > wrote: > >> I am the only one that has to cringe every time he hears the words >> "pulse audio"? > > I actually like it.  :-P > > Definitely looks like you better get used to it though.  Don't

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-28 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:29:05 +0200 Boris Faure wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 23:22, David Seikel wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:14:44 -0500 Jeff Hoogland > > wrote: > > > >> I am the only one that has to cringe every time he hears the words > >> "pulse audio"? > > > > I actually like it.

Re: [E-devel] pulseaudio in e17

2011-09-28 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 03:07, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:44:06 +0200 Thomas Gstädtner > said: > > if we take your view that the only thing that matters in a release is sitting > and waiting 6+ months for a distro to package it, then why do we care about > release at all? re