David W. Fenton schrieb:
And you have the nerve to accuse *me* of being an asshole!
What?
Johannes
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On 11 Aug 2005 at 20:59, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> At 08:29 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >> That's not the whole picture. People who include the Reply-To can
> also >> set the list not to send a duplicate message. . . . > >No,
> the list setting only controls duplicated TO: and CC: addr
On 11 Aug 2005 at 20:51, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> At 07:26 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >The message that has the incorrect Reply-To header is not being sent
> >by me.
>
> Yes, it is.
No, it really isn't. The incorrect Reply-To header is generated by
the mailing list server.
> >My
At 08:51 PM 8/11/05 -0400, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>At 07:26 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >The only justification would be if Mailman were not configurable to
> >drop the incoming Reply-To header. We know that is not the case.
>
>I agree that Henry can -- and should -- easily configure Mai
At 08:29 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
>> That's not the whole picture. People who include the Reply-To can also
>> set the list not to send a duplicate message. . . .
>
>No, the list setting only controls duplicated TO: and CC: addresses,
>and the problem is *not* a duplicate address -- i
At 07:26 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
>The message that has the incorrect Reply-To header is not being sent
>by me.
Yes, it is.
>My message to the list is correct in having my email address in the
>Reply-To field.
Having the same address in a Reply-To header as in your From header
is
On 12 Aug 2005 at 1:06, Simon Troup wrote:
> > Does anyone think that's a good idea?
> >
> > Anyone?
>
> Doesn't affect us, it's your problem. Take it up with the list owner
> and let's move onto something more interesting - we're all agreed
> about quoting aren't we.
Well, given how much diffi
On 11 Aug 2005 at 19:58, dhbailey wrote:
> An interesting point of research would be to see among the top 50% of
> users, based on activity, what the break-down of digest-vs-individual
> would be. I wonder if that would reflect the list's preference as a
> whole, or if the bulk of the digest-reci
On 11 Aug 2005 at 19:52, dhbailey wrote:
> David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Well, the lack of effort on the part of many posters in regard to
> > trimming quotations indicates to me that there was little concern
> > over the issue.
> >
> > Darcy's questioning of the utility of the Digest
On 11 Aug 2005 at 16:42, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
> On 11/08/05, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It causes problems in one of two ways:
> >
> > 1. it either inconveniences the people who are paying attention to
> > remove the extra address when replying, OR
> >
> > 2. it inconvenie
> Does anyone think that's a good idea?
>
> Anyone?
Doesn't affect us, it's your problem. Take it up with the list owner and let's
move onto something more interesting - we're all agreed about quoting aren't we.
Simon Troup
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David W. Fenton wrote:
On 11 Aug 2005 at 19:12, Andrew Levin wrote:
I might very well be in the minority, but it suits me.
As you'll see when you get to today's Digest, you're actually in the
majority of list subscribers.
An interesting point of research would be to see among the top
David W. Fenton wrote:
[snip]
Well, the lack of effort on the part of many posters in regard to
trimming quotations indicates to me that there was little concern
over the issue.
Darcy's questioning of the utility of the Digest confused me into
thinking that this was also a challenge to the
On 11/08/05, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It causes problems in one of two ways:
>
> 1. it either inconveniences the people who are paying attention to
> remove the extra address when replying, OR
>
> 2. it inconveniences the person lists in the Reply-To along with the
> list, by
On 11 Aug 2005 at 19:12, Andrew Levin wrote:
> I might very well be in the minority, but it suits me.
As you'll see when you get to today's Digest, you're actually in the
majority of list subscribers.
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On 12 Aug 2005 at 0:56, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> David W. Fenton schrieb:
>
> > That indicates to me that, assuming we all want the list's
> > subscribers to read our posts, we should all format our posts for
> > maximum readability on the Digest -- we should all be considering
> > Digest reade
On 12 Aug 2005 at 1:01, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> Dennis Bathory-Kitsz schrieb:
>
> > Since I keep a big archive of posts that interest me, here's what
> > I've found in the 3,009 posts I saved from 2005:
>
> Wow, this is turning into a research project.
>
> Anyway, I feel there is enough justi
On 12 Aug 2005 at 0:54, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> David W. Fenton schrieb:
> > Take it up with the list owner. I'm not about to change the
> > configuration of my email client to accommodate a mis-configured
> > mailing list.
>
> I am not so sure, actually. Isn't the very nature of a "reply-to"
I guess the firestorm for Finale2006 and GPO has died down, allowing
us a full day to discuss email etiquette!
:-)
Of course, since I'm on the digest, I'm only about 18 hours late to
the party...
Darcy wrote:
What possible advantage does the digest
have over creating a "Finale list" folder
David W. Fenton schrieb:
Take it up with the list owner. I'm not about to change the
configuration of my email client to accommodate a mis-configured
mailing list.
I am not so sure, actually. Isn't the very nature of a "reply-to" header
that you _want_ it to be replied to? So, unless you want
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz schrieb:
Since I keep a big archive of posts that interest me, here's what I've
found in the 3,009 posts I saved from 2005:
Wow, this is turning into a research project.
Anyway, I feel there is enough justification that those who have
reply-to headers in their mail to th
David W. Fenton schrieb:
That indicates to me that, assuming we all want the list's
subscribers to read our posts, we should all format our posts for
maximum readability on the Digest -- we should all be considering
Digest readers when we post to the list.
Which, of course, noone ever doub
At 12:31 PM -0500 8/11/05, Henry E. Howey wrote:
I haven't done a total lately; however, I believe the DIGEST option is a
70/30 prefernce of listmembers.
As for quoting, I believe cogent, concise quotes will be read more avidly
than full-blown rehashes of conversations.
While we are (briefly)
At 03:27 PM 8/11/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote:
>But the problem is not caused by *me* -- it's caused by an incorrect
>configuration of the mailing list software. This is the only mailing
>list I'ver ever subscribed to that exhibits this problem.
I subscribe to numerous six mailman lists, and
On 11 Aug 2005 at 15:49, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> At 03:27 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >But the problem is not caused by *me* -- it's caused by an incorrect
> >configuration of the mailing list software.
>
> Well, it's caused by a certain setting in the software which would
> arguabl
At 03:27 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
>I' not sure I quite understand how the list software can address
>that, as it isn't processing the header -- the sender's SMTP server
>is doing it.
Right. If you have 'avoid' set to Yes, what Mailman does is look to
see if you are explicitly named
At 03:29 PM 08/11/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
>Just to clarify: the two addresses are not put there by *me*. When I
>send to the list, there's only one address in the Reply-To header, my
>own.
Right. As I've explained before, Mailman adds the finale@shsu.edu to
any existing Reply-To header.
>
On 11 Aug 2005 at 13:41, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> At 01:31 PM 08/11/2005, Henry E. Howey wrote:
> >I haven't done a total lately; however, I believe the DIGEST option
> is a >70/30 prefernce of listmembers.
>
> 421 Digest / 362 non-digest
*BOGGLE*
That means that a *majority* of subscribers are
On 11 Aug 2005 at 15:41, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> Brad Beyenhof schrieb:
> > I'm fairly certain that gmail adds a Reply-To header to every email
> > I send out (and that there's no way to change that), but with "avoid
> > duplicates" turned on I never get more than one of each message.
>
> No, m
> > PS: I am really tired of having to cut out your address from the
> > replies. So whoseever fault it is, you either have to live with
> > getting individual replies twice from me, or take out your reply-to
> > header when you send to the list, to make my life easier.
>
> Take it up with the list
On 11 Aug 2005 at 6:17, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
> On 10/08/05, Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Darcy James Argue schrieb:
> >
> > And it actually makes everyone else's life more difficult, unless
> > you actually want double messages, so from now on you (not you,
> > Darcy) will get
On 11 Aug 2005 at 8:44, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> PS: I am really tired of having to cut out your address from the
> replies. So whoseever fault it is, you either have to live with
> getting individual replies twice from me, or take out your reply-to
> header when you send to the list, to make my
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>I just wished Thunderbird would support selective quoting (where you
>select something in the original message, click "Reply", and only that
>portion is quoted at the beginning of the reply message).
>
>
>Thunderbird is a great email client, but this is a huge step back f
At 01:31 PM 08/11/2005, Henry E. Howey wrote:
>I haven't done a total lately; however, I believe the DIGEST option is a
>70/30 prefernce of listmembers.
421 Digest / 362 non-digest
Aaron.
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I haven't done a total lately; however, I believe the DIGEST option is a
70/30 prefernce of listmembers.
As for quoting, I believe cogent, concise quotes will be read more avidly
than full-blown rehashes of conversations.
Shakespeare;-)
Your frindly listowner
Henry Howey
Professor of Music
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At 11:31 AM 08/11/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>In my message "mailman" should have read "Gmail", I think it is clearer
>then. We agree I believe.
Ah, yes -- thanks for clarifying.
Aaron.
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In my message "mailman" should have read "Gmail", I think it is clearer
then. We agree I believe.
Johannes
Aaron Sherber schrieb:
At 09:41 AM 08/11/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>No, mailman is obviously not adding a reply-to header, if I click reply
>to your message only the finale address
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At 09:41 AM 08/11/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>No, mailman is obviously not adding a reply-to header, if I click reply
>to your message only the finale address is put into the To field, not
>yours.
Right. Mailman is adding 'Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu'.
>With David's emails to the list are diffe
Brad Beyenhof schrieb:
I'm fairly certain that gmail adds a Reply-To header to every email I
send out (and that there's no way to change that), but with "avoid
duplicates" turned on I never get more than one of each message.
No, mailman is obviously not adding a reply-to header, if I click repl
On 10/08/05, Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darcy James Argue schrieb:
>
> And it actually makes everyone else's life more difficult, unless you
> actually want double messages, so from now on you (not you, Darcy) will
> get double messages from me.
Actually, he need not get double
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David W. Fenton wrote:
On 10 Aug 2005 at 17:58, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I forgot to add, when addressing someone's question, lots of people
reply to the replies (not the original), so even if the list was
configured to automatically reply-to the individual as well as the
list (which it isn
David W. Fenton wrote
>I'd be interested to know if under OS X you guys were stikll finding
>RAM disks helpful with pre-2006 Finale. We had a discussion of this a
>while back and I can't remember what was concluded. I'd have thought
>that OS X's modern industrial-strength virtual memory managemen
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