Re: what software can support that UPS ?

Wojciech Puchar writes: > > /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd ? > > ? - so what to give as device? /dev/ugen1.3? > set > > UPSCABLE usb > UPSTYPE usb My BackUPS RS 500 works fine using those and a empty "DEVICE" field. It is possible this is a new/redesigned model that Apcupsd

Re: what software can support that UPS ?

iProduct = 0x0002 iSerialNumber = 0x0003 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 FreeBSD gives only ugen interface. what (if any) software support that? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ques

Re: what software can support that UPS ?

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what software can support that UPS ?

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Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

Hello all. I have been reading in detail all your comments and advice. Thank you very much for your time. I have clear vision now of what do I need to do. I comment today to my students the help we were getting and all of them send you a BIG "THANK YOU VERY MUCH" comment. I hope that wieth

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez >> wrote: >> > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would >> > like >> > to be able to develop graphical applica

Re: software raid

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012, Jim Pazarena wrote: Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. Sure, multiple ways, in fact: http://www.freebsd.org/doc

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

Le Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600, Jorge Biquez a écrit : > Hello all. Hi, > Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use > Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me > create executables and will let me create Graphical solutions even > for othe

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 09:06:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > However, from personal experience, I know that Larry Wall understands > > Object Oriented Programming, and Guido definitely doesn't get it. > > Obviously, othe

Re: software raid

> Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? > I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, > and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid > to create a NAS device. Yes! An example of setting up a 3 disk raidz might look like this: zpool create

software raid

Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. -- Jim Pazarena fqu...@paz.bz ___ freebsd-questions

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like > > to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's > > the market and here some comp

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:36:46 -0800 mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > > "DDa" == Da Rock > > writes: > > >> Would you do that with Python or something else? > > DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your > DDa> language. Others have offered advice here

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On 02/07/12 14:06, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "DDa" == Da Rock writes: Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa> language. Others have offered advice here, but

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:46PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "DDa" == Da Rock writes: > > >> Would you do that with Python or something else? > > DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your > DDa> language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? >

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

> "DDa" == Da Rock writes: >> Would you do that with Python or something else? DDa> Depending on what you really need to solve decides your DDa> language. Others have offered advice here, but may I suggest Perl? DDa> For most data and its proven ability to handle/match string data it DDa> is

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like > to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's > the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound > crazy

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

ucts were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let m

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

> > From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >To: Rod Person >Cc: Jorge Biquez ; FreeBSD Questions > >Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:22 PM >Subject: Re: Software Development using Freebsd. > >On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person wrote:

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

untimes" were not free and the > amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real > free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am > now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then > use open source software

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Rod Person wrote: > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 > Jorge Biquez wrote: > > > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we > > would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows > > (we all know that's the market and here

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:37:37 -0600 Jorge Biquez wrote: > Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we > would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows > (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they > are looking), so maybe sound cra

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Would you do that with Python or something else? > http://qt.nokia.com/ -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

ption. Others provide " real > free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am > now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and > then use open source software to develop graphical windows > applications. > > Maybe I am wrong but

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

> > Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is > that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables > and will let me create Graphical solutions even for other platforms (Mac or > LInux or whatever runs Python). > I think that python i

Re: Software Development using Freebsd.

untimes" were not free and the amount of money to pay was not a good option. Others provide " real free" excutables for runtimes but the products were expensive. I am now trying to, If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical wind

Software Development using Freebsd.

If possible, have FreeBSD running graphically and then use open source software to develop graphical windows applications. Maybe I am wrong but until now I think my only option is to use Phyton. Is that correct? For what I have searched Python will let me create executables and will let me create

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Re: versions of software

On 6/17/2011 7:58 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> FreeBSD can also run a lot of Linux Applications just fine with the >> Linux_Enable="YES" added to /etc/rc.conf and, not only that, I've heard > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf has it in lower caselinux_enable="NO" Yea I know, I'm still awake from yes

Re: versions of software

> FreeBSD can also run a lot of Linux Applications just fine with the > Linux_Enable="YES" added to /etc/rc.conf and, not only that, I've heard /etc/defaults/rc.conf has it in lower case linux_enable="NO" Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://b

Re: versions of software

On 6/15/2011 11:20 AM, spidey wrote: > Good morning. > > I have never used Freebsd. For that matter, I have not used Linux since > the early 1990s (1993 to be exact) Anyway... > BTW - I have your logo on my xwindows on the Linux box I am trying to > setup. I think it's great. OK, so, you have

Re: versions of software

On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:20 AM, spidey wrote: > Can someone tell me which versions of sendmail and DNS Bind are in the > current Ubuntu 10?? Sure, but you're asking on the wrong mailing list: FreeBSD isn't Ubuntu. [ Reply-to: set appropriately. ] Regards, -- -Chuck __

Re: versions of software

Good morning. I have never used Freebsd. For that matter, I have not used Linux since the early 1990s (1993 to be exact) Anyway... BTW - I have your logo on my xwindows on the Linux box I am trying to setup. I think it's great. I have a need to use sendmail and DNS bind. Can someone tell

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Devin" == Devin Teske writes: > > Devin> sudo cd /usr/repos > > This is pretty useless. :) I'd say it's _absolutely_ useless ^_^ Yes, indeed, the `sudo' should be omitted. -- Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

> "Devin" == Devin Teske writes: Devin> sudo cd /usr/repos This is pretty useless. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsan

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

I wrote a utility (attached) to make the process really fast and easy: jail_build(8): Build FreeBSD jails from binary distributions Here's a simple howto: Step 1: Create a landing zone for your binary distribution (jail_build(8) looks in `/usr/repos' for binary distributions)... sudo mkdir

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote: > How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then? > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much. > > Thanks! > Use this as a start: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails.html Then yo

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscri

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010/12/6 Redd Vinylene : > Greetings! > > Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some > software that only works on 32-bit. > > Thanks! > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list &g

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

Thanks a lot guys - I really appreciate it. Redd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit FreeBSD without even using a jail. Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system? This would get installed for example if you rebuild world/kernel following this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

Yes, I believe this has been possible since 7.2. Mike On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote: > Greetings! > > Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use > some > software that only works on 32-

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

>> I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit >> FreeBSD without even using a jail. >> Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for >> example if you rebuild world/kernel following this: >> http://www.freebsd.org

Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: > I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit > FreeBSD without even using a jail. > Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system? This would get installed for > example if you rebuild world/kernel follo

Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

Greetings! Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some software that only works on 32-bit. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Software Update

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Steven Susbauer wrote: > On 11/27/2010 07:01 PM, RW wrote: > >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:36:09 -0500 >> Chris Brennan wrote: >> >> My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is >>> weather th

Re: Software Update

On 11/27/2010 07:01 PM, RW wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:36:09 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is weather this pulls updates from packages or ports. There are a few applications, such as opera, that can "phone home" and

Re: Software Update

On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:36:09 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is > weather this pulls updates from packages or ports. There are a few applications, such as opera, that can "phone home" and check for newer versions. Typi

Software Update

My fbsd desktop is popping up with Software Update. My question is weather this pulls updates from packages or ports. P.s. I think I asked this before but it got lost in some other hubbub. So appologies if I did ask already. ___ freebsd-questions

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

On 11/18/10 13:52, Rob Farmer wrote: 2010/11/18 O. Hartmann: Well, in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR? Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for something being listed there - if something isn't going to be used by very many

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010/11/18 O. Hartmann : > Well, > in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR? > Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for something being listed there - if something isn't going to be used by very many ports, it may not be worth adding,

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

On 11/18/10 03:12, Rob Farmer wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann wrote: Thanks. I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment. By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seem

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann wrote: > Thanks. > I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties > for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment. > > By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seems to be noneexistent, > instead

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

On 11/17/10 22:01, Rob Farmer wrote: 2010/11/17 O. Hartmann: Hello. I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need t

Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010/11/17 O. Hartmann : > Hello. > > I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is > build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some > lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the &g

porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

Hello. I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the top level Makefile of the port to use a spec

Re: CPU testing software?

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Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Friday 08 October 2010 01:12:55 Robert Bonomi wrote: > he'll tell you: "I need to review the copyright notices, licenses, and > distribution restricions on _each_and_every_ item in that package. Go > check _every_ file you intend to include, bring me a list showing > 1) every file name >

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Oct 7 18:28:10 2010 > Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:29:46 +1000 > From: Danny Carroll > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Like it or not, > Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted > software in

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 05:47:23PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Pure and simple, _if_ there is software involved, there *MAY* be export- > control issues. > > *ANYONE* in the business of exporting software _should_ be aware of that > fact, and as a matter of basic 'du

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On 7/10/2010 8:23 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > I would assume you already did that before walking into my office to > ask me about the set of licenses up for a review ... otherwise, > there´s no way to me to look close enough where I wasn´t asked to look > ... > If you go tell your Dr. you have a

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> "Glen" == Glen Barber writes: Glen> Can this thread go away now? Only when the problem goes away. Is there a comprehensive list of restrictive sublicenses, or pointers to same, somewhere prominent at the top of the core distro? Or maybe some tool that would dynamically discover same, lik

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On 10/7/10 6:47 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> To: FreeBSD >> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:46:34 -0700 >> Subject: Re: Like it or not, >> Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software >> in the core >> >> >> I understand tha

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> To: FreeBSD > Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:46:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: Like it or not, > Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software > in the core > > > I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and > downri

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On 10/07/2010 12:46 PM, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:19, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> If you have a point, then there´s no point in me addressing your point >> .. unless you are asking me for legal advice .. >> Should that be the case, just let me know; I charge by the hour .. no >> "p

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 07:23:02 +0200 > From: Erik Trulsson > To: "Randal L. Schwartz" > Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping > export-restricted software in the core > > On Wed, Oct 06

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:19, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > If you have a point, then there´s no point in me addressing your point > .. unless you are asking me for legal advice .. > Should that be the case, just let me know; I charge by the hour .. no > "pro bono". Seeing as your messages says things l

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rob Farmer >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 03:23, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> >> Im saying what I already said. >> > >> > And yet, you haven't r

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Rob Farmer > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 03:23, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > >> Im saying what I already said. > > > > And yet, you haven't really addressed my core point. > > ... > > > > My point is ... >

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

ibuting stuff internationally Usually, the implications of distributing stuff internationally have a really strict realation with "what is exactly what you want to export?" ... which in this case, leads you straight into the reading of the terms of the licenses of the software su

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

partment, which covers the *entire* distribution: By clicking on and downloading Fedora, you agree to comply with the following terms and conditions: Fedora software and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exporte

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: [SNIP] > > Or a third alternative... use the ACPI implementation from OpenBSD, > which doesn't have such a restriction. Port it! I'll test it for you (on 9-CURRENT and, if possible, a backport to 8-STABLE). In your opinion, how long will

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

he upstream vendor states that it applies to the entire tarball on their website. You should reasonably expect that each piece of software (ie directory) within contrib may be under a different license and needs to be reviewed. It´s not about what a lawyer or an accountant expects or doesn´t. It´s a

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

sting ones. > > Yes, you always have to obey the law when you export. But this clause > seems to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers the > export laws, probably in a bad way. > > Do you have a different opinion, and is it a legal opinion? To me it looks

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

e is not just in src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c - it is in all the files within the acpica contrib directory, plus the upstream vendor states that it applies to the entire tarball on their website. You should reasonably expect that each piece of software (ie directory) within contrib may b

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

El 07/10/2010 12:11 a.m., Randal L. Schwartz escribió: "Michael" == Michael Powell writes: Michael> I was under the impression that the most onerous of these Michael> export rules and restrictions applied to crypto technology. If Michael> this is so, what I don't quite grasp is what do cryp

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

El 06/10/2010 11:18 p.m., Rob Farmer escribió: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well aware of this restriction. It hadn't occurred to

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:04, Michael Powell wrote: > I was under the impression that the most onerous of these export rules and > restrictions applied to crypto technology. If this is so, what I don't quite > grasp is what do crypto export restrictions have to do with acpi? Is acpi a > copyrighte

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

>>>>> "Jung-uk" == Jung-uk Kim writes: Jung-uk> Please stop the FUD. ACPICA is actually triple-licensed, i.e., Jung-uk> generic Intel software license, (three-clause) BSD-like license, and Jung-uk> GPLv2. [...] Jung-uk> Historically FreeBSD never touch

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wednesday 06 October 2010 03:40 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/178267 > > And yes, there it is, in > /usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c: > > * 4.3. Licensee shall not export, either directly or indirectly, > a

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> "Michael" == Michael Powell writes: Michael> I was under the impression that the most onerous of these Michael> export rules and restrictions applied to crypto technology. If Michael> this is so, what I don't quite grasp is what do crypto export Michael> restrictions have to do with acpi? I

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

Michael Powell wrote: [snip] export restrictions have to do with acpi? Is > acpi a copyrighted, patented, or trademark otherwise owned by some entity? > Quite possibly so as it is in contrib. I just have no idea who might "own" > it. Or how it would fall afoul of crypto export restrictions. > > L

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

Rob Farmer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: >> I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and >> downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well >> aware of this restriction. >> >> It hadn't occurred to *me* for exam

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> "Rob" == Rob Farmer writes: Rob> Making the license more visible may be a good idea, but doesn't Rob> materially change the situation any. I agree, it doesn't change it materially. But for the casual integrator, making it very visible would help. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consu

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > I understand that entirely.  Which is why it would be reasonable (and > downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well > aware of this restriction. > > It hadn't occurred to *me* for example to think that FreeBSD mi

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

is clause seems to imply that the associated software *knowingly* triggers the export laws, probably in a bad way. Do you have a different opinion, and is it a legal opinion? Either this clause needs to be hoisted to the front page of the FreeBSD distro proper ("Some software contained with

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

port would Erik> be legally required to do so anyway. Erik> AFAICT the paragraph in question does not add any restrictions or Erik> burdens, it just points out potentially existing ones. Yes, you always have to obey the law when you export. But this clause seems to imply that the associat

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:16:37PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "RW" == RW writes: > > RW> It doesn't say approval is needed. It says that it's needed if it's > RW> required by the appropriate agencies. In other words, it's needed if > RW> it's needed. > > But doesn't this then shif

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> "Jerry" == Jerry writes: >> But doesn't this then shift the burden to every exporter, knowing or >> unknowing, willing or unwilling? >> >> Seems like an onerous burden. Is it well-documented? Jerry> Are you familiar with the axiom: Jerry> Ignorantia juris non excusat or Ignorantia legi

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:16:37 -0700 Randal L. Schwartz articulated: > > "RW" == RW writes: > > RW> It doesn't say approval is needed. It says that it's needed if > RW> it's required by the appropriate agencies. In other words, it's > RW> needed if it's needed. > > But doesn't this then shi

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

> "RW" == RW writes: RW> It doesn't say approval is needed. It says that it's needed if it's RW> required by the appropriate agencies. In other words, it's needed if RW> it's needed. But doesn't this then shift the burden to every exporter, knowing or unknowing, willing or unwilling? Seems

Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:40:54 -0700 mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/178267 >... > So, is such approval on file with the FreeBSD Foundation? " without first obtaining _any_ _required_ license or other approval ..." It doesn't sa

Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/178267 And yes, there it is, in /usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c: * 4.3. Licensee shall not export, either directly or indirectly, any of this * software or system incorporating such software without first obtaining any

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP: > the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server. That's sadly true (mostly because of the amounts of spam produced by ordinary PCs on dynamic IPs).

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Sep 22 00:32:52 2010 > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100 > From: Bruce Cran > To: Adam Vande More > Cc: Ed Flecko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? > > On Tue, 21 Sep 20

Re: Mailing list software recommendations

s, I'd like to find time for a 2nd stab to convert all my lists on majord...@berklix.org to mailman. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Munich 18th Sept Free Software, Lectures & Installs http://berklix.org/sdf/ __

Re: Mailing list software recommendations

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500 Ryan Coleman articulated: > I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. > > I'm not against others; thoughts? DADA Mail, is an excellent program. It is not in the ports system although it is on my list of things to do e

Re: Software to SEND log files only?

On 09/21/2010 10:17 PM, Len Conrad wrote: > -- Original Message -- > From: Ed Flecko > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 > > >> According to the FreeBSD website >> (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest >> way to send m

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