Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-13 Thread ┣glen┫
I'm not a scholar, but I don't really think Szasz was anti-psychology, per se. He was a long-time member of the psychicatric association and all that jazz. But he pulled no punches when policing his community ... something we all should do more of ... moderate muslims bear the responsibility f

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
2017 4:34:03 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme I'm not a scholar, but I don't really think Szasz was anti-psychology, per se. He was a long-time member of the psychicatric association and all that jazz. But he pulled no

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-13 Thread gepr ⛧
On August 13, 2017 4:39:47 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >Every day I form hypotheses about how I think this or that experiment >or code modification will go, and often I have to confront contrary >evidence. I would say I have a pretty fast turnover of ideas. I doubt that. My guess is that

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
pr ⛧ Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:35:50 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme On August 13, 2017 4:39:47 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >Every day I form hypotheses about how I think this or that experiment >or code mo

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
t survive a fitness test. Crazy terms can only be up-voted in a crazy community. Marcus From: Friam on behalf of gepr ⛧ Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:35:50 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme On Au

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-14 Thread gepr ⛧
On August 13, 2017 11:38:07 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >I suspect neural correlates rapidly calibrate to networks with similar >behavior & topology across individuals sharing a _grounded_ task, >whether it is hunting a Buffalo or writing a song. But crazy ain't >grounded, so distributing n

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-14 Thread Marcus Daniels
8:36 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme On August 13, 2017 11:38:07 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >I suspect neural correlates rapidly calibrate to networks with similar >behavior & topology across individuals sharing a _gr

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Eric Smith
> Their desperation and rage just comes from a feeling that they can't > confront, that they just don't have much to offer. > > Marcus Reading this, I feel like you could found a new generation of something that is like existentialist philosophy but equally-well political theory. It is not

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Marcus Daniels
pplied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme > Their desperation and rage just comes from a feeling that they can't > confront, that they just don't have much to offer. > > Marcus Reading this, I feel like you could found a new generation of something

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread gⅼеɳ
------ > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:56:23 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme > > Reading this, I feel like you could found a new generation of something that > is like existentialist philosop

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Steven A Smith
-- *From:* Friam on behalf of Eric Smith *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:56:23 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme > Their desperation and rage just comes from a f

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Steven A Smith
anxiety (whether by themselves, with their shrink or their spiritual authority) and make it to the next day. Marcus -- *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:56:23 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Compl

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread gⅼеɳ
Well, just because all rule sets are faulty doesn't mean some rule sets aren't better than others. (Need I repeat it? Surely not. ... All models ... yadda yadda.) And so your intuition is right, all rule sets are faulty, including the rule set of all rule sets. The lesson isn't to throw awa

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Steven A Smith
Well, just because all rule sets are faulty doesn't mean some rule sets aren't better than others. (Need I repeat it? Surely not. ... All models ... yadda yadda.) And so your intuition is right, all rule sets are faulty, including the rule set of all rule sets. The lesson isn't to throw

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Merle Lefkoff
the contagion of people going > bonkers could be fast with social media. A healthy society is one where > individuals can mature to the point they can begin to doubt the meaning in > their own anxiety (whether by themselves, with their shrink or their > spiritual authori

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Steven A Smith
ext day. Marcus *From:* Friam <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:56:23 AM *To:* The Frida

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread gⅼеɳ
FWIW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience#Genes_and_physiology > Openness to experience, like the other traits in the five factor model, is > believed to have a genetic component. Identical twins (who have the same DNA) > show similar scores on openness to experience, even wh

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Merle Lefkoff
ad in how they try >> to deal with it. > >> >> >> Yeah, it is probably nothing new that is happening nor a new >> interpretation. Institutions of various kinds can give individuals a >> role to play and guidelines for conduct, but a highly interconnected >> population with a complex eco

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Roger Critchlow
The strangest thing I saw today was this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXBeQwmmrc To be honest, he likes to be offensive. No deep roots of xenophobia, he's open to all kinds of offensiveness. -- rec -- FRIAM Applied Complex

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-16 Thread Marcus Daniels
Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme The strangest thing I saw today was this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXBeQwmmrc To be honest, he likes to be offensive. No deep roots of xenophobia, he's open to all kinds of

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Gillian Densmore
Yeah their's some trolls that for what ever reason just like to troll. They are still trolls though. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > The strangest thing I saw today was this video > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXBeQwmmrc > > To be honest, he likes to be offensi

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread gⅼеɳ
On 08/16/2017 09:56 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html I was intrigued by this tweet: https://twitter.com/veryapetv/status/898240260550909952 Here's the full text for the 1st

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
< And the third quote about clicktivism is just (apt) snark. But there's a big difference between "chasing them away with sticks" and "holding the line". The former is bad. The latter is good. > Hold the line, but if violence is used to break it, adopt a liberal definition of self-defense.

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread gⅼеɳ
Body armor is necessary. My motorcycle jacket has nearly invisible pads for the elbows, shoulders, and back. Augment that with some shin and arm guards and you'd be surprised at how much easier it is to defend yourself and others. But the most important gear is your mouth guard. Those chants

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:52 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme Body armor is necessary. My motorcycle jacket has nearly invisible pads for the elbows, shoulders, and back. Augment that with some shin and arm guards and you'd be surprised at how much ea

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread gⅼеɳ
Yeah, bullets are another matter entirely. It's easy to be "pure defense" with sticks and such. Self-defense in the context of bullets is one of incoherent, asymmetric, or preemptive. People who tell me they have a gun for self-defense risk a confrontation. Guns are purely offensive. They a

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
m] On Behalf Of g??? Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:25 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme Yeah, bullets are another matter entirely. It's easy to be "pure defense" with sticks and such. Self-defense in the context of bullets is one of incoher

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread gⅼеɳ
I'm not so sure. If I had a pistol and were inclined to use it, my inclination would only go *up* if you tased the guy next to me ... or even looked like you were going to do so. I think tasers might increase everyone's chances of being wounded or killed, rather than decreasing it. My guess i

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of g??? Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:24 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme I'm not so sure. If I had a pistol and were inclined to use it, my inclination would only go *up* if you tased the guy next to me ... or even looked like you

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Roger Critchlow
I think a ballistic vest would work as well as motorcycle gear for center of mass defense. Dress it up for cos play and you'll have the replacement for pro wrestling and other prize fighting entertainments. By the way, are we taking down the nascent alt-right-web yet? They're going to reinvent

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread gⅼеɳ
The Future Primaeval is still up: http://thefutureprimaeval.net/this-is-the-future-primaeval/ NrX sites are mostly still up: http://neoreaction.net/ http://hestiasociety.org/ More Right is gone. Mike Anissimov's Twitter account is gone. Moldbug's garbage is still up: http://www.thedarkenlighten

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
. Might makes right. Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Roger Critchlow Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:29:38 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme I think a ballistic vest would work as well as motorcycle gear for center of

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

2017-08-21 Thread gⅼеɳ
Perhaps there is some hope. See this orthodox nationalist's whining: http://www.rusjournal.org/the-orthodox-nationalist-podcast/ But it sounds like he's been replaced by a kinder-gentler version? I haven't heard of Nathaniel Kapner. It's interesting how the tangled knot of fuzz that was NrX