Re: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread fd
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Kenneth F. Belva wrote: > If the US population is 296 million and 40 million cardholders were > affected, that means that 13.51 percent of the population would be > affected (on the assumption that is only US citizens that hold a > Visa/Mastercard). Roughly one in every seven

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread arif . jatmoko
Hi, Try to look at www.nss.co.uk for IDS products comparison. They did lot of R&D. Obviously, Cisco is not a good one. Why you're asking about IDS while we could use IPS ? Cheers, |+-+--| || Fajar Edisya Putera |

[Full-disclosure] [NRVA05-08] - Arbitrary file download by NateOn Messagener's ActiveX and DoS

2005-09-28 Thread saintlinu
Title: Arbitrary File Download by NateOn Messagener's ActiveX and DoS Discoverer:    PARK, GYU TAE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Advisory No.:  NRVA05-08 Critical:  Moderately Critical Impact:    Arbitrary file download by NateOn Messagener's ActiveX and DoS W

[Full-disclosure] SquirrelMail Address Add Plugin XSS

2005-09-28 Thread Moritz Naumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SA0002 + +SquirrelMail Address Add Plugin XSS+ + PUBLISHED ON Sep 28, 2005 PUBLISHED AT http://mo

[Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Kenneth F. Belva
>> In the paper I ask: "If 40 million customer credit card numbers are >> exposed in a security breach at the credit card processor CardSystems, why >> do a significant number of people not cancel their Visa and/or >> Mastercard?" >Simple .. because Mastercard/Visa got to avoid having to notify th

Re: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Kurt Buff
Frank Knobbe wrote: > Perhaps you should ask: > "If 40 million customer social security numbers are exposed in a > security breach at the credit card processor CardSystems, why do a > significant number of people not request new social security numbers?" > > After all, there is no limit on liabi

[Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 797-2] Updated zsync i386 packages fix build error

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Stone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Debian Security Advisory DSA 797-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Michael Stone September 28th, 2005

Re: [Full-disclosure] Need comparison of netscreen and cyberguard

2005-09-28 Thread Ivan .
http://www.networkcomputing.com/showitem.jhtml?articleID=160910889&pgno=2 cheers Ivan On 9/29/05, adnan habib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi all > > please help me i want some strong points for juniper ,,, help me to defeat > cybergurad as t runs by scure computing now @ which they have

[Full-disclosure] Need comparison of netscreen and cyberguard

2005-09-28 Thread adnan habib
hi all please help me i want some strong points for juniper ,,, help me to defeat cybergurad as t runs by scure computing now @ which they have there own firewall.. best regards \ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lis

Re: [Full-disclosure] urgent info require

2005-09-28 Thread Ivan .
A good start http://www.networkcomputing.com/showitem.jhtml?articleID=160910889&pgno=2 cheers Ivan On 9/27/05, adnan habib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi security gurus > > i want to implement juniper (netscreen) solution in my company ,,, moveover > i want to replace cyberguard from junip

RE: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 18:49:32 +0200 Jan Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Pauk Can i ask what you were doing that a pix could not handle nat wise ? just wondering since I have done very extensive and complex nat'ing in pix'es from 506's up to 535's without any performance pro

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 09:48:36 -0700 Kevin Pawloski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does the Tipping Point appliance allow you to create custom rules now? Yes, for some definition of "rules". For example, you can block individual host/port combos or ports or hosts, that sort of thin

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 17:48:59 +0100 "Paul S. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 16:56, Michael Holstein wrote: > If you NAT a lot, PIX can't handle the load. It also isn't flexible > enough. Huh? .. the FWSM (which is PIX and you can have 4 of them

Re: [Full-disclosure] IDS features (was: Suggestion for IDS)

2005-09-28 Thread Kevin Pawloski
Cutting down on false alerts would be a start and by false alerts I mean (in this case) alerts such as a receiving MS-SQL worm alerts on your Linux hosts. Yes, you can setup suppression alerts and disable rules but the larger the network you monitor the more cumbersome that becomes. SourceFire

[Full-disclosure] Re: Active Directory and IIS on production servers, and clustering

2005-09-28 Thread Reto Inversini
Hi, Derick Anderson schrieb: > The company I work for (as the only systems administrator) is > considering a new implementation of their web-based software. To support > this we will be splitting our single domain into two domains, one for > production servers and one for employee support (file se

Re: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:46:38 CDT, Todd Towles said: > Plus, it was shown recently that personal credit card fraud via ID theft > is smaller than victimless credit card fraud. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/16/gartner_phantom_fraud/ The Google-provided ad at the top says: Official Check

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Reto Inversini
Hi, Michael Holstein wrote: >> Our company plan to install IDS to protect our resources, I'm already >> read about snort as NIDS, but, that's software based. I'm interesting >> with hardware based that will work transparently with our Cisco PIX, >> no need to make changes in our firewall. What's y

RE: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Todd Towles
Plus, it was shown recently that personal credit card fraud via ID theft is smaller than victimless credit card fraud. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/16/gartner_phantom_fraud/ It is a very good rundown on why the banks just really don't have a reason to chase after them and stop them. -Tod

Re: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Frank Knobbe
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 10:22 -0400, Kenneth F. Belva wrote: > In the paper I ask: "If 40 million customer credit card numbers are > exposed in a security breach at the credit card processor CardSystems, why > do a significant number of people not cancel their Visa and/or > Mastercard?" Simple. The

[Full-disclosure] Bypassing Personal Firewall (Zone Alarm Pro) Using DDE-IPC

2005-09-28 Thread Debasis Mohanty
Hi All !! While I was testing desktop based firewalls (here it is Zone Alarm Pro) with the firewall evasion kit developed by me, I found that a very old flaw still exists in many latest versions of desktop based firewalls. It is possible for a malicious program to bypass a desktop based firewall b

[Full-disclosure] Re: Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
I'm not so sure it's that simple... People were aware of it. Um .. but *which* 40mil was it? Am I one of them? Hearing that 40mil random people got nicked is one thing .. me getting a letter from MBNA another. Mastercard/Visa certianly know .. and so do some member banks, because some of th

RE: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Brown, James
Title: Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS Show me an OpenBSD system that can handle 400 interfaces, 20gbps, and 4Mconnections (and can do HSRP, etc).   Regarding HSRP, OpenBSD now has failover with their CARP implementation. And IPSec SA synchronization as well.   You may be intereste

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:07:08 EDT, Michael Holstein said: > PCI bandwidth at that rate is 127.2MB/sec (big B). Cisco's figure is > 60mb/sec (litte b). Crap. Sometime after I hit send, that 'b' magically turned lower-case. You're right, it's only eating 1/8th the PCI bandwidth, not almost all of

[Full-disclosure] IDS features (was: Suggestion for IDS)

2005-09-28 Thread Alejandro Barrera
Hi all, Now that we're talking about IDS, which are, in the list's opinion, the features they hate more about actual IDS's? I mean, what features you dream of everytime you have to plat with your IDS but you don't have? Thxs in advanced. -- Alejandro Barrera García-Orea R&D Engin

[Full-disclosure] OpenServer 5.0.7 OpenServer 6.0.0 : UnZip File Permissions Change Vulnerability

2005-09-28 Thread please_reply_to_security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 __ SCO Security Advisory Subject:OpenServer 5.0.7 OpenServer 6.0.0 : UnZip File Permissions Change Vulnerability Advisory number:

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
be lucky to have a budget for a McSE (you want fries with that?) "Fries with that" ... LMAO .. good one ;) (In the interests of fairness, you don't need much beefy if you're Cisco - the listed technical specs on the innards of the PIX-501: Processor: 133-MHz AMD SC520 Processor Random access

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:48:59 BST, "Paul S. Brown" said: > I suspect the argument here has to be cost-for-cost - in the price range for > a > decent beefy OpenBSD box you aren't going to be using FWSMs, and I can quite > believe that the PIXen in that price range don't perform - the PIX 501 is

Re: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
In the paper I ask: "If 40 million customer credit card numbers are exposed in a security breach at the credit card processor CardSystems, why do a significant number of people not cancel their Visa and/or Mastercard?" Simple .. because Mastercard/Visa got to avoid having to notify their custom

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Lew Wolfgang
Hi Kevin, Yes, they will give you a no-extra-cost Windows-based program to create custom rules. We've got one, but I haven't used it yet. I'm still brushing up on my Regex... Regards, Lew Kevin Pawloski wrote: Does the Tipping Point appliance allow you to create custom rules now? The last ti

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
I suspect the argument here has to be cost-for-cost - in the price range for a decent beefy OpenBSD box you aren't going to be using FWSMs, and I can quite believe that the PIXen in that price range don't perform - the PIX 501 is specced at 60MB/s throughput and the cheapest retail price I can f

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul S. Brown
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 16:56, Michael Holstein wrote: > > If you NAT a lot, PIX can't handle the load. It also isn't flexible > > enough. > > Huh? .. the FWSM (which is PIX and you can have 4 of them in a chassis) > can handle 100 intefaces, 5gpbs, 100k CPS, and 1M concurrent per blade. >

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Kevin Pawloski
Does the Tipping Point appliance allow you to create custom rules now? The last time I tried the appliance (which was over a year ago) that 'feature' was not yet available. KevinOn 9/28/05, Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 15:54:41 +0700 Fajar Edisya Puter

RE: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Vitor Ventura
I'm not so sure that FWSM runs PIXOS, but with all that interfaces think about the rules managment nighmare. -Mensagem original- De: Michael Holstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: qua 28-09-2005 16:56 Para: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul S. Brown
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 16:56, Michael Holstein wrote: > > If you NAT a lot, PIX can't handle the load. It also isn't flexible > > enough. > > Huh? .. the FWSM (which is PIX and you can have 4 of them in a chassis) > can handle 100 intefaces, 5gpbs, 100k CPS, and 1M concurrent per blade. >

[Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches?

2005-09-28 Thread Kenneth F. Belva
White and Case, a top NYC law firm, posted a survey on Data Security Breach Notifications on September 26, 2005. >From the press release: "Victims of personal data security breaches are showing their displeasure by terminating relationships with the companies that maintained their data, according

Re: [Full-Disclosure] (no subject) cpshost.dll

2005-09-28 Thread Vitor Ventura
This a DLL used by IIS do handle POST requests, it can be used to upload files. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

RE: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Jan Nielsen
Hi Pauk Can i ask what you were doing that a pix could not handle nat wise ? just wondering since I have done very extensive and complex nat'ing in pix'es from 506's up to 535's without any performance problems. Jan -Original Message- From: Paul Schmehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
If you NAT a lot, PIX can't handle the load. It also isn't flexible enough. Huh? .. the FWSM (which is PIX and you can have 4 of them in a chassis) can handle 100 intefaces, 5gpbs, 100k CPS, and 1M concurrent per blade. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/modules/ps2706/ps4452/ Show me

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:37:38 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:01:34 EDT, "J. Oquendo" said: While I do agree with the statement made "Quite frankly, anybody who already has a PIX installed and wants to install an IPS needs to quantify *exactly* what protect

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 15:54:41 +0700 Fajar Edisya Putera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Experts, Our company plan to install IDS to protect our resources, I'm already read about snort as NIDS, but, that's software based. I'm interesting with hardware based that will work transpar

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:01:34 EDT, "J. Oquendo" said: > While I do agree with the statement made "Quite frankly, anybody who > already has a PIX installed and wants to install an IPS needs to quantify > *exactly* what protection the PIX is failing to provide before they go > shopping for anything"

Re: [Full-disclosure] (no subject)

2005-09-28 Thread Ademar Gonzalez
Hi Aditya On 9/28/05, Aditya Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently 2 days ago I saw this in a compromised system. > > > Both this file and cpshost.dll were deleted from C:\InetPub\scripts > This file was recovered but I was unable to recover cpshost.dll > > > Anyone know what is this

Re: [Full-disclosure] O-O-O

2005-09-28 Thread Colin
On 27/09/05, Frank de Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Couldnt help noticing your name is kinda "F-Wit" lol (sorry) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - htt

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Joel Esler
Take a look at Sourcefire's (The company who makes Snort) IPS products. Joel Esler (pS. Disclaimer, I work for Sourcefire, and am biased to Sourcefire/Snort's products) On 9/28/05, Michael Holstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Really? Is there no software package capable of withholding inspect

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
Our company plan to install IDS to protect our resources, I'm already read about snort as NIDS, but, that's software based. I'm interesting with hardware based that will work transparently with our Cisco PIX, no need to make changes in our firewall. What's your suggestion. My first piece of ad

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Holstein
Really? Is there no software package capable of withholding inspected packages until cleared by said IDS? Um .. snort-inline anyone? Michael Holstein CISSP GCIA Cleveland State University ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.g

[Full-disclosure] (no subject)

2005-09-28 Thread Aditya Deshmukh
Recently 2 days ago I saw this in a compromised system. Both this file and cpshost.dll were deleted from C:\InetPub\scripts This file was recovered but I was unable to recover cpshost.dll Anyone know what is this ? <% Response.Buffer = TRUE %> Version=1.5 <% PathTo

[Full-disclosure] Exploring Windows CE Shellcode

2005-09-28 Thread Tim Hurman
Hi, I have just had chance to put a paper I wrote a little while ago online. It discusses the problems involved in writing shellcode for Windows CE/ARM and goes on to develop an exploit. The full source for the exploit and related utilities is included. http://www.pentest.co.uk/cgi-bin/viewcat.

Re: [Full-disclosure] CORE-Impact license bypass

2005-09-28 Thread sk
>what i criticize is that *lots* of companies (at least here in my >vicinity) are selling cheap "vulnerability assessments" which actually >are nothing more than automated security scans. this leads to the >customer feeling safe when he's really wide open to attacks. often, >these people's networks

Re: [Full-disclosure] in-line coax monitoring device

2005-09-28 Thread Alex Krycek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 greetings comrades...after doing some further research, this is what I was looking for: http://sfs.poly.edu/presentations/boris_cable%20modem%20sniff.ppt http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7977 SB5100 + Blackcat Combo at: http://www.tcniso.net/ (thank

[Full-disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA 821-1] New python2.3 packages fix arbitrary code execution

2005-09-28 Thread Martin Schulze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Debian Security Advisory DSA 821-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze September 28th, 2005

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread J. Oquendo
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a nutshell I would go with Sentivist. http://www.nfr.com/solutions/download/HotPick-IPS-Review.pdf For brief summaries of some other products: http://www.networkintrusion.co.uk/inline.htm > All depends on the inbound packet rate, how fast the IDS

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:48:06 +0200, Peer Janssen said: > Really? Is there no software package capable of withholding inspected > packages until cleared by said IDS? All depends on the inbound packet rate, how fast the IDS is, and how much RAM you're willing to buy. Just remember that a sufficie

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Peer Janssen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:54:41 +0700, Fajar Edisya Putera said: plan to install IDS to protect our resources An IDS doesn't *protect* your resources, any more than a concealed video surveillance camera protects anything. It may tell you who did it, and what they d

Re: [Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:54:41 +0700, Fajar Edisya Putera said: > Our company plan to install IDS to protect our resources, I'm already read > about snort as NIDS, but, that's software based. I'm interesting with > hardware based that will work transparently with our Cisco PIX, no need to > make cha

[Full-disclosure] Suggestion for IDS

2005-09-28 Thread Fajar Edisya Putera
Dear Experts, Our company plan to install IDS to protect our resources, I'm already read about snort as NIDS, but, that's software based. I'm interesting with hardware based that will work transparently with our Cisco PIX, no need to make changes in our firewall. What's your suggestion. Thanks Fa

Re: [Full-disclosure] urgent info require

2005-09-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:20:57 -, adnan habib said: > i want to implement juniper (netscreen) solution in my company ,,, moveover > i want to replace cyberguard from juniper ... is there any one let me know > any strong point that will support me in replacement like weakness in > cyberguard e

Re: [Full-disclosure] CORE-Impact license bypass

2005-09-28 Thread Bernhard Mueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:53:58 +0200, Bernhard Mueller said: > > And note also that "finding a hole" and "be talented enough to create an > exploit" are *totally* distinct. I found a rather nasty rootable hole in > Sendmail a while back (read the release notes for 8.10.1