Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

I hope others realize how humorous this Product M and H discussion is :P On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: > Peter Haas wrote: >> >> On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >> >>> All in all continuing to make the " H" word we cannot use here more and >>>

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: All in all continuing to make the " H" word we cannot use here more and more attractive. There's a place for both. Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, irrespective of perfor

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Peter Haas wrote: > > Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, > irrespective of performance, I use "Product M". > > Where highest performance is required, over comparatively few applications, > most of these being "mission specif

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: All in all continuing to make the " H" word we cannot use here more and more attractive. There's a place for both. Where absolute compatibility is required, over a great many applications, irrespective of performance, I use "Pro

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 9:23 pm, Chance Reecher wrote: > t...@io.com wrote: > > > Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor?   If they'd add > > dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), > > I'd buy one in an instant.   I don't need slots, but I want dual > > monitor sup

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: > > > t...@io.com wrote: > >> >> Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor? If they'd add >> dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), >> I'd buy one in an instant. I don't need slots, but I want dual

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor? If they'd add dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), I'd buy one in an instant. I don't need slots, but I want dual monitor support. Jeff Walther It's had dual monitor support for o

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

Len Gerstel wrote: > The Mini has always been a price point Mac. Yes, compromises are made > to hit that point and that is the decision the end user needs to > make. Yes, Apple could offer the mini with a 320GB SSD and 8GB of > ram, but not at the same price. Does the Mini still have support fo

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > Remember, Apple is a software company. The hardware is > just the (officially) only way to run the software. That one mad me laugh. No, Microsoft is a software company. Apple is ... well, Apple is whatever it is they are. But they are certain

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: But who, in reality, really cares about form factor. A famous quote In my MANY years as a Mac user (since at least the Apple IIcx days, with NO Gates/Windows machines, of ANY TYPE, whether a true "Mac" or a "Mack", I have had three Mac Mi

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Is it any wonder that the OSx86 crowd is operating Snow machines which cost one-fourth, yet deliver four-times the performance? In the same form factor as the mini? Of course not. But who,

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Is it any wonder that the OSx86 crowd is operating Snow machines which cost one-fourth, yet deliver four-times the performance? In the same form factor as the mini? Of course not. But who, in reality, really cares about form factor. One

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

I know alot of the macs don't have peripheral ports in the front, but why not hide them behind a tab or slider like the Dell optiplex series computers or the Hp a418x computer? How about Alienware towers? --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a me

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Dan wrote: I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the "why bother" category. It should be a fast machine, but then it's got older i/o technology, circa 2005ish, bolted on. Only one Firewi

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. And to red

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. Also, specia

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. Also, special firmware can be installed, and which further eco

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

There are no USB or eSATA or SD or any such ports on the front because they don't look as nice. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John Martz wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: >> >>> Will Appl

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? I tend to doubt it. My total wild-ass speculating guess is that this might be a Steve Jobs sort of thing. eSATA does not supply power to the external device

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: > Will Apple ever support eSATA? I tend to doubt it. My total wild-ass speculating guess is that this might be a Steve Jobs sort of thing. eSATA does not supply power to the external device and perhaps "the Steve" has deemed this to be as ina

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

At 8:43 AM -0700 6/15/2010, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? sigh. I doubt it. I think we'll see all the ports vanish, when Light Peak comes out. Then we'll be stuck buying expensive adapters. Regretfully, at the rate Apple has been adopting interfaces, the PC world wi

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > In the future you can check with MacTactic or similar Mac buyer timing > guides: > > > It looks to me as though mactactic.com is itself in dire need of an update. It lists the MacBooks as all not having been updated si

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that g

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

Dan wrote: I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the "why bother" category. It should be a fast machine, but then it's got older i/o technology, circa 2005ish, bolted on. Only one Firewire port. The 4 USB ports are probably again all the same b

New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store "closed for update")

At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the "why bother" category. It should

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

Mac Pro with NVidia GTX400 series? Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > > > -- > *From:* Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > *To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 June, 2010 11:56:34 > *Subject:* R

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010 11:56:34 Subject: Re: Apple Store "closed for update" On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > >Looks like new toys coming... &

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > Looks like new toys coming... > > > 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. -- You re

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > Looks like new toys coming... > > A Quick Google search got this site http://www.*apple*.com/hot*new*s/ -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our plac

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > Looks like new toys coming... > > 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer h

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Of course, I just got a new mini delivered yesterday. In the future you can check with MacTactic or similar Mac buyer timing guides: All Mac products have been pretty stale for a much longer than normal time period.

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: Looks like new toys coming... Yes, and 10.6.4 has been ready for a couple weeks, so it will likely coincide with the new toys' arrival? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 de

Re: Apple Store "closed for update"

On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > Looks like new toys coming... > > Ted Of course, I just got a new mini delivered yesterday. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on

Apple Store "closed for update"

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