[gentoo-user] Re: I guess it is time to update udev from 171-r10 to 197-r8...

2013-03-18 Thread nunojsilva
On 2013-03-17, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-03-17 2:17 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:46:39 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Also, should I manually fix the blockers: [blocks B ] sys-apps/module-init-tools (sys-apps/module-init-tools is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I guess it is time to update udev from 171-r10 to 197-r8...

2013-03-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-18 4:18 AM, (Nuno Silva) nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote: On 2013-03-17, Tanstaafl wrote: Ah, ok... but as for the rest... I should be able to safely upgrade udev, with a reasonable (I know there are no guarantees) expectation of everything 'just working' (ie, my lvm managed /usr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I guess it is time to update udev from 171-r10 to 197-r8...

2013-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/03/2013 12:14, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-03-18 4:18 AM, (Nuno Silva) nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote: On 2013-03-17, Tanstaafl wrote: Ah, ok... but as for the rest... I should be able to safely upgrade udev, with a reasonable (I know there are no guarantees) expectation of everything 'just

Re: [gentoo-user] I guess it is time to update udev from 171-r10 to 197-r8...

2013-03-18 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, spent a little time re-reading the old threads about this... Just to confirm, changes I should make in my /etc/fstab... snip normal fs lines # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot! none /proc procdefaults0 0 I can/should simply delete the above two

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge problems

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Schuster
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: FIXED! The problem seemed to be *~-file in package.use left from my last vim session...sigh Huh? I once filed a request that *.bck files should be ignored, because NEdit creates such files per default, and was told that they already ignore those.

Re: [gentoo-user] I guess it is time to update udev from 171-r10 to 197-r8...

2013-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:15:39 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Thanks for ya'lls patience. I have a feeling this is going to be another non-event, but I'd much prefer a little pre-update pain than a lot of post-update pain... ;) quickpkg udev before the update. Then if it all goes TU, you can boot from

[gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-03-17, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. There's no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML editor, since WYG depends on the redering engine, display size, and various browser settings... --

[gentoo-user] Can I chroot to a folder?

2013-03-18 Thread João Matos
Hi list, I want to install a samba server using Gentoo. But I decided to start the installation o my machine and make a stage4 at some folder. The idea is to spent less time at the target machine. But, when I try to chroot, I get the error: chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': Permission

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I chroot to a folder?

2013-03-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.03.2013 19:43, schrieb João Matos: Do I need to create a partition just for this? no

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I chroot to a folder?

2013-03-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I want to install a samba server using Gentoo. But I decided to start the installation o my machine and make a stage4 at some folder. The idea is to spent less time at the target machine. But, when I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-18 Thread Andrew Hoffman
sublimetext is nice, not OSS though:/ -Andy On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: On 2013-03-17, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical. I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. There's no

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I chroot to a folder?

2013-03-18 Thread João Matos
2013/3/18 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I want to install a samba server using Gentoo. But I decided to start the installation o my machine and make a stage4 at some folder. The idea is to spent

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Can I chroot to a folder?

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Is that partition mounted with noexec option? or user option without explicit exec option? problem solved :) You know you can bind mount just the directories you want with exec but as interpreters don't check this mount option, it's not as effective as it could be ;-( --

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
sublimetext is nice, not OSS though Netbeans is quite useful for html5. Also chrome and firefox have good developer options so you can try changes and see them without a refresh. When I load my pages in a browser they are fine but in every WYSIWYG editor I have tried they are desimated to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On 15 March 2013, at 17:32, Kevin Chadwick wrote: If you use the Gentoo hardened Tinfoil Linux you will need lots of ram and wait ages to boot but firefox will just pop up. I'm sorry, I don't understand this statement. Could you possibly explain, please? It's one of Blueness

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Wait, K9 Mail doesn't have a plain text option? Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, as I am also unable to comprehend why K9 might enforce top-posting on replies. K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting. Both set in Account settings/Sending mail. It can write but forces

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/18/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Wait, K9 Mail doesn't have a plain text option? Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, as I am also unable to comprehend why K9 might enforce top-posting on replies. K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting. Both set in Account

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/18/2013 04:21 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On 15 March 2013, at 17:32, Kevin Chadwick wrote: If you use the Gentoo hardened Tinfoil Linux you will need lots of ram and wait ages to boot but firefox will just pop up. I'm sorry, I don't understand this statement. Could you possibly

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I don't know what mail client you use (I suppose I could check your headers), but *every* mail client I've used disables loading remote content by default. Except the content within the message. Why do you assume I am talking about remote content. Further, you're ranting about users being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
It's one of Blueness projects based on Hardened Gentoo. It loads into ram at boot (you need something like 4 gig of ram) which takes ages from dvd but could be from an ssd/hdd (defeating half the point without a ro switch though). It can update from the net once booted too. Once

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/18/2013 05:38 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: It's one of Blueness projects based on Hardened Gentoo. It loads into ram at boot (you need something like 4 gig of ram) which takes ages from dvd but could be from an ssd/hdd (defeating half the point without a ro switch though). It can update

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:38:11 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting. Both set in Account settings/Sending mail. It can write but forces html onto users, which potentially includes jpg exploits, png exploits, html exploits, script exploits, font

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/18/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: It can write but forces html onto users, You seem to miss some of the details. About that. See the attachment. It's a screenshot of the setting in K-9 where

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:28:04 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Even though it is from a DVD it can be updated just like standard linux. The problem is, if you run out of ram then things get killed. (Frankly, this sounds quite nice for kiosk environments.) Could be

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:38:11 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting. Both set in Account settings/Sending mail. It can write but forces html onto users, which potentially includes jpg exploits, png exploits, html exploits,

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:15:34 +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: What are you talking about? K9 forces HTML on no one, it sends plain text if you set it to do so. If you receive a html email you have no choice but to execute code to handle as per my above examples. That applies to mails from

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/18/2013 08:15 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:38:11 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting. Both set in Account settings/Sending mail. It can write but forces html onto users, which potentially includes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 18 March 2013 14:10:40 Grant Edwards wrote: There's no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML editor Depends. Kompozer is built on the Firefox tree, so if Firefox gives you what you want to see, Kompozer will be WYSIWYG.. On the other hand, its HTML is not pure, the application is buggy and

Re: [Bulk] Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/18/2013 08:05 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/18/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: It can write but forces html onto users, You seem to miss some of the details. About that. See the attachment. It's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/18/2013 08:10 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:28:04 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Even though it is from a DVD it can be updated just like standard linux. The problem is, if you run out of ram then things get killed. (Frankly, this sounds quite nice