Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Bob Sanders
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:41:56 +0100 Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those of you that only use x86 based system don't know how lucky you are > to have two decent bootloaders. If you took the worst aspect of LILO and > GRUB and added some extra user-hostility for luck, you'd still have >

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:37:27 +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to > > remove the initrd= option from the command line? > > Good question! In this regard, grub is certainly better since it shows > you the complete command line, and yo

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 15:40, Neil Bothwick wrote: > What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to > remove the initrd= option from the command line? Good question! In this regard, grub is certainly better since it shows you the complete command line, and you can tweak e

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Nico Schümann
2006/6/21, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: What happens if something is wrong with your initrd and you need to remove the initrd= option from the command line? I'd try things like "initrd=" for example. Maybe it's ignored. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:04:04 +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > You pass vga=ask on the fly on the command line and this takes > precedence over whatever is in lilo.conf. > The same happens for the "root=", "initrd=", "ramdisk=", and other > kernel parameters. What happens if something is wrong with

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Alexander Skwar
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: > Nico Schümann wrote: >>> 2006/6/21, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have to explicitly press some key to modify the command line. >>> I agree. I don't want to say anything like lilo is

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:58, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hm - can you also *modify* the boot commands? Say, the boot command > in lilo.conf contains "vga=123" and now, for whatever reason, you > want "vga=ask" - what to do? You pass vga=ask on the fly on the command line and this takes precedenc

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nico Schümann wrote: > 2006/6/21, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have >> to explicitly press some key to modify the command line. > I agree. I don't want to say anything like lil

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Nico Schümann
2006/6/21, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, no flame, but it's probably easier than with grub, where you have to explicitly press some key to modify the command line. I agree. I don't want to say anything like lilo is better (I personally prefer grub because I always forget to run lilo a

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Alexander Skwar
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:39, Alexander Skwar wrote: > >> True. But with lilo, you've got to modify the lilo.conf (or what's >> it called?) and run lilo, don't you? >> >> Or can you modify the boot command line "on-the-fly" in the boot >> menu? > > Of course: after selec

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 13:39, Alexander Skwar wrote: > True. But with lilo, you've got to modify the lilo.conf (or what's > it called?) and run lilo, don't you? > > Or can you modify the boot command line "on-the-fly" in the boot > menu? Of course: after selecting an entry from the lilo menu,

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Alexander Skwar
Daniel Iliev wrote: >> Another way: If you use grub, you can edit the boot command line. Add >> "init=/bin/sh" to the end of the boot command line. >> >> Alexander Skwar >> -- >> Dreams are free, but there's a small charge for alterations. >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Daniel Iliev
> Another way: If you use grub, you can edit the boot command line. Add > "init=/bin/sh" to the end of the boot command line. > > Alexander Skwar > -- > Dreams are free, but there's a small charge for alterations. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > The same method applies to "lilo" to

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Alexander Skwar
Paul Stear wrote: > On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote: > >> > 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state? >> > What tools do I need? >> >> In this case, all you need to do is boot without X, or SSH

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Boris Fersing
2006/6/21, Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote: > > 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state? > > What tools do I need? > > In this case, all you need to do is boot

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stear
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote: > > 1. What is the correct procedure to recover a system in this state? > > What tools do I need? > > In this case, all you need to do is boot without X, or SSH in from > another box. As a

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0100, Paul Stear wrote: > I am running an ~x86 system and yesterday I did an emerge world, all > went well until the next time I booted. kdm ran but the screen just had > a flashing loggin box. I could not even get another terminal using alt > F1-F7. So I am faced wi

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Caster
On 6/21/06, Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I am running an ~x86 system and yesterday I did an emerge world, all went welluntil the next time I booted. kdm ran but the screen just had a flashingloggin box.  I could not even get another terminal using alt F1-F7. So I am faced with not being

[gentoo-user] What to do when you can't loggin

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stear
Hi, I am running an ~x86 system and yesterday I did an emerge world, all went well until the next time I booted. kdm ran but the screen just had a flashing loggin box. I could not even get another terminal using alt F1-F7. So I am faced with not being able to loggin at all. This raises a few q