Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Brian Chabot
Greg Rundlett wrote: > I've been through the upgrade process and I'm still getting used to KDE 4. > > I'm frustrated by not being able to have a customized panel with > direct launchers for all my favorite applications. For that matter, > although I generally keep a clean desktop, I don't like

Re: OT: The Matrix... is a Windows app?

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 That was amusing. The "Professor Wikipedia" video was funny. But "Font Conference" was *hilarious*! Who knew there was actual creative, original content on CollegeH

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyone done it yet? Any, "Your system wont work for 3 days while >> you frack with it" gotchas? >> And most importantly, when the upgrade to

OT: The Matrix... is a Windows app?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 ObLinux: the very last line... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone done it yet? Any, "Your system wont work for 3 days while > you frack with it" gotchas? > And most importantly, when the upgrade to KDE 4.1 happens, can you > get compiz back? I am.. Underwhelmed.. I've neve

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After hearing about it, I did some research. It looks like KDE4 is > using some OpenGL which some drivers have 'pretty big emotional > issues' over. I'll let you know if I encounter any issues Greg. > What's your card,

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Greg Rundlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> both my systems use >> nvidia or ati cards that are not supported yet (although they were >> supported under kde 3.x) > WTF does KDE have to do with

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Greg Rundlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > both my systems use > nvidia or ati cards that are not supported yet (although they were > supported under kde 3.x) WTF does KDE have to do with one's video card? Isn't that the X server's job? Linux gets closer and

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Greg Rundlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been through the upgrade process and I'm still getting used to KDE 4. Yea, I tried 4.0 when it came out, and reverted back to 3.x as I didn't feel it was up to par quite yet. I was hoping 4.1 did some catching up.

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Rundlett
I've been through the upgrade process and I'm still getting used to KDE 4. I'm frustrated by not being able to have a customized panel with direct launchers for all my favorite applications. For that matter, although I generally keep a clean desktop, I don't like the fact that KDE4 won't let me p

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Mark Komarinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/12/2008 02:44 PM, Thomas Charron wrote: >> Anyone done it yet? Any, "Your system wont work for 3 days while >> you frack with it" gotchas? > Upgrading my desktop was quite painless - we have a local mirror, so it

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 11/12/2008 02:44 PM, Thomas Charron wrote: > Anyone done it yet? Any, "Your system wont work for 3 days while > you frack with it" gotchas? > I had plain Ubuntu installed on my laptop and desktop. I think I chose the wrong mirror for the laptop and it told me there were no packages to i

Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
Anyone done it yet? Any, "Your system wont work for 3 days while you frack with it" gotchas? And most importantly, when the upgrade to KDE 4.1 happens, can you get compiz back? -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlu

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader? (RAID recovery)

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
>> Since some of those parititions might be (as they are in our case) >> components of a software RAID and since the act of mounting them >> causes uncoordinated modfications to the mirrors behind MD's back, >> we're less than pleased with this "helpful" behavior. > [...] >Any idea how to recover

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Bruce Dawson
Michael ODonnell wrote: > ... > Since some of those > parititions might be (as they are in our case) components > of a software RAID and since the act of mounting them causes > uncoordinated modfications to the mirrors behind MD's back, > we're less than pleased with this "helpful" behavior. > > Bu

Re: Ben Scott Saved Our Bacon (Was: GNHLUG is back on the Internet)

2008-11-12 Thread Bruce Dawson
Bill McGonigle wrote: > Ben spent tons of hours working on our server recovery and even took a > day off of work to get it back in action. He's the guy who really keeps > our online presence running and we'd still be dead in the water without > his efforts. > > I'm collecting funds here: > >

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
> Note to self: Avoid CentOS live discs. ...or at least be careful: I don't claim that *all* discs created using that LiveCD-creator kit are b0rken and (to your point in a previous msg) the standard installation CDs and DVDs do seem to work just fine. But the ones I generated in-house definite

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On machines with IDE-connected drives ... > ... machines with SATA-connected DVD drives ... Sheesh, that don't leave much. What good is a live CD that can't actually boot on 99% of the computers out there? > ... co

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Shawn O'Shea
> > So I've been looking for something that'll allow me to create a > new bootable/live/rescue DVD that I can base the new installer > on, and I'd love to find something as simple and flexible as > the Timo's kit; something that just starts a kernel and boots > up to a console login prompt with a m

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
>> The CentOS5.2 LiveCD-creator kit looked promising until we found >> bugs that prevent it from running on our bleeding-edge hardware. > > I'm curious. Got time to provide any details? In particular, why >would the regular CentOS install disc work for you when the "live" >disc would not? Are

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
> WTF is /sbin/loader ? > >It executes early during startup when booting from an ISO. The >only stuff I can find online about this apparently pivotal item >is lots of other people also asking questions, but no answers. Ah. I used "strings" on the /sbin/loader file from the ISO and divined th

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Alex Hewitt
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:08 -0500, Ben Scott wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Michael ODonnell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The CentOS5.2 LiveCD-creator kit looked promising until we found > > bugs that prevent it from running on our bleeding-edge hardware. > > I'm curious. Got ti

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The CentOS5.2 LiveCD-creator kit looked promising until we found > bugs that prevent it from running on our bleeding-edge hardware. I'm curious. Got time to provide any details? In particular, why would the regular

x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
I'm working on a product that's currently based on RHEL3 and whose installer is based on the venerable Timo's Rescue CD kit. We've ported our product to a more current version of Linux and when I went to port the installer I discovered that development on Timo's kit stopped after 2004 and it still

Re: [OT] *GaSp*

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:56 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:04:10 -0500 > > From: "Thomas Charron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Did I just get a gnhlug mail again? :-D > I have to confess, I was getting used to not receiving GNHLUG > posts. :) > When I saw the subject o

Re: Ben Scott Saved Our Bacon (Was: GNHLUG is back on the Internet)

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
P.S.: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I sincerely appreciate the gesture, I think your idea of my > effort paints me in a better light than the reality. In lieu of donations to me, I would like to request that people in a giving mood send any donati

Re: Ben Scott Saved Our Bacon (Was: GNHLUG is back on the Internet)

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben spent tons of hours working on our server recovery and even took a > day off of work to get it back in action. While I sincerely appreciate the gesture, I think your idea of my effort paints me in a better light tha