Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-08 Thread Miles T.
So GWT distribution includes JFreeChart which is LGPL. Problem would be here, Allan, something wrong related to section 4 of the license ? On 8 avr, 07:15, Ian Petersen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Ian Petersen wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ian Bambury wrote: > >> If

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Ian Petersen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ian Bambury wrote: >> If you *don't* release a product under a certain licence, then how can it be >> possibly be a concern if the product doesn't comply to the licence it isn't >> released under? > > I think

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ian Bambury wrote: > If you *don't* release a product under a certain licence, then how can it be > possibly be a concern if the product doesn't comply to the licence it isn't > released under? I think you've just summarized the irrelevance of this whole thread.

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Vitali Lovich
The original question was whether or not GWT was in violation of the LGPL, which it would only be if GWT utilized a LGPL component without following the license. At that point, RMS would not care (or at least, would not be in a position to do anything about it). The only people at that point that

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Bambury
I know *nothing* about licensing, but I've been following this, and I apologise if it's a stupid question but... If you *don't* release a product under a certain licence, then how can it be possibly be a concern if the product doesn't comply to the licence it isn't released under? Ian http://exam

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Ian Petersen
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:32 PM, ginger_ninja wrote: > What a farce. Who cares if it violates the LGPL (besides perhaps RMS)? That's a ridiculous comment. Because GWT is released under the Apache license, I don't understand how this conversation even got started but if, hypothetically, GWT _did_

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread ginger_ninja
What a farce. Who cares if it violates the LGPL (besides perhaps RMS)? GWT is release under the Apache v2.0 License. The two are completely separate from each other. About the only common heritage they share is the fact that they're OSI approved. On Apr 8, 12:18 am, Robert Hanson wrote: > There

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Hanson
There is also an about.txt[html] with the GWT distribution. Here are the notable bits: | This product includes software developed by: | - The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). |- Tomcat (http://tomcat.apache.org/) with modifications |- Tapestry (http://tapestry.apache

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Miles T.
It says : "Could not locate 'about.html' in installation directory." :-p On 7 avr, 13:10, Miguel Ping wrote: > Just click the 'about' button on the hosted mode browser (the bg > window) > > On Apr 7, 9:43 am, "Miles T." wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 10:52 pm, Daniel Berlin wrote: > > > > On Apr 6, 4

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Miguel Ping
Just click the 'about' button on the hosted mode browser (the bg window) On Apr 7, 9:43 am, "Miles T." wrote: > On Apr 6, 10:52 pm, Daniel Berlin wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 4:27 pm, allan wrote: > > > The LGPL does not require source, it is only one of a myriad of > > options to comply with it. >

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-07 Thread Miles T.
On Apr 6, 10:52 pm, Daniel Berlin wrote: > On Apr 6, 4:27 pm, allan wrote: > > > The LGPL does not require source, it is only one of a myriad of > options to comply with it. I think (but not sure) I've read somewhere a discussion with a FSF guy saying that the other options were not appliable t

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Vitali Lovich
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Ian Petersen wrote: > > Isn't GWT released under the Apache license?  I don't think it's > possible for GWT to violate the GPL.  Of course, I'm not a lawyer Yes it s released as Apache. Of course it's possible for it to violate the GPL (it doesn't as far as OI

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Daniel Jue
You've stated some very bold claims. How did you become so convinced of this violation and the need to address it? Are you the "Beginning Rails" author? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM, allan wrote: > > LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary > distributions. Source can b

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Ian Petersen
Isn't GWT released under the Apache license? I don't think it's possible for GWT to violate the GPL. Of course, I'm not a lawyer Ian On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM, allan wrote: > > LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary > distributions. Source can be provided dire

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Apr 6, 4:27 pm, allan wrote: > LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary > distributions. Source can be provided directly with the binaries or in > an offer, made available to the public for 3 years. No, this is true of works using the GPL, but not of works using the LG

Re: GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread thebuz...@gmail.com
Last time i checked the source code is with the binary. everything is in the jar files. On Apr 6, 1:27 pm, allan wrote: > LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary > distributions. Source can be provided directly with the binaries or in > an offer, made available to the publ

GWT Violates LGPL

2009-04-06 Thread allan
LGPL/GPL have the obligation to provide source with any binary distributions. Source can be provided directly with the binaries or in an offer, made available to the public for 3 years. You cannot fulfill the obligation by pointing to a 3rd party download site for the source. Go ask Cisco and ot