Re: Search engine indexing

2009-04-10 Thread Darkflame
Well that was easy, chears :) On Apr 7, 7:46 am, Vitali Lovich wrote: > DOM.toString(RootPanel.get().getElement()) > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Darkflame wrote: > > > As a mater of interest semi-relivent to this, Is it possible to "burn > > out" GWT webpages into static html? (obviou

Re: Search engine indexing

2009-04-06 Thread Vitali Lovich
DOM.toString(RootPanel.get().getElement()) On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Darkflame wrote: > > As a mater of interest semi-relivent to this, Is it possible to "burn > out" GWT webpages into static html? (obviously losing > interaction...just taking a snapshot of the current state of the dom > a

Re: Search engine indexing

2009-04-06 Thread Darkflame
As a mater of interest semi-relivent to this, Is it possible to "burn out" GWT webpages into static html? (obviously losing interaction...just taking a snapshot of the current state of the dom and expressing the html nesscery to reproduce it). I mean, I guess you could cut and paste out of firebug

Re: Search engine indexing

2009-04-06 Thread Jason Essington
There are discussions about this (SEO) on this list, have a search for them. But basically, you'll want to embed the information you want indexed into your host pages. This is not a GWT limitation but rather a limitation of any web application that uses DOM modification to present content.

Re: Search engine indexing

2009-04-06 Thread Prashant Gupta
any alternative or solution to this ? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:20 PM, djd wrote: > > Current crawl bots ignore flash and javascript. > So if your web app is completely built in GWT (the default behavior > when creating a project with projectCreator is to create a single HTML > file with a singl

Re: Search engine indexing

2009-04-06 Thread djd
Current crawl bots ignore flash and javascript. So if your web app is completely built in GWT (the default behavior when creating a project with projectCreator is to create a single HTML file with a single link to a .nocache.js files which is actually your entry point for entire app), all content

Search engine indexing

2009-04-06 Thread Prashant Gupta
does my GWT website gets indexed same as any other (non GWT) website..? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-27 Thread bryanb
In case it's any help to anyone, this is how I think I'll solve the indexing problem. My wife has a web site on which she sells various things, the descriptions of which are stored in a database. I re-jigged her website as a way to learn GWT. She was quite keen to have the GWT version, but pretty

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-26 Thread jos
Quick answer for me - no, never expected it to be indexed so there was never any wondering The trade off that Eric mentions was always made pretty clear by the search engines and in my case, we decided to render pages we wanted indexed outside of GWT and we have a parallel application structure to

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-25 Thread Peter Ondruška
Following discussion on indexing AJAX applications I have to ask if those who wonder why their GWT applications cannot be indexed if you expect search engines to index Java applets or Flash out there on the web, or compressed files and executable files? And if somehow GWT application get indexed w

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-25 Thread Eric Ayers
Here are some official answers on the subject: Notes on Ajax: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=81766 Don't be evil, Guidelines for Webmasters: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:04 AM, jos wrote: > >

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-25 Thread Malte Legenhausen
Why does the GWT compiler not create a version for the google index bot that contains only static content that can be indexed? When you can compile from Java to Javascript there must be a way to compile it in a static html content. Where you can exclude the whole grafical stuff. --~--~-~--

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-25 Thread jos
Eric Just to make sure I understood your last point, we should be looking for a search bot indicator like a URL parameter or something, and if we see it we should render our page as statically and flat as possible? Thanks, jos On Jan 24, 5:01 am, Eric Ayers wrote: > Hi Bryan, > I understand yo

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-25 Thread jos
Hi Bryan I recently had the chance to speak with some good SEO types and the subject of javascript did come up. The bottom line is don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen in any search engine. I think its easy to appreciate how difficult it would be for a search engine to do this. You'

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-24 Thread bryanb
Hi Eric, Thanks for the heads up on that I appreciate there's a few more 'gotchas' than my admittedly simplistic scenario, and I'm sure there's lots of big brains at Google thinking about the problem. Thanks again, Bryan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this m

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-24 Thread Eric Ayers
Hi Bryan, I understand your frustration. Unfortunately, due to the extremely competitive nature of web search, we here at Google can't say a lot about the Google bot or the roadmap for future improvements. Indexing JavaScript apps is a general problem not particular to GWT. Obviously, this is on

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-23 Thread bryanb
That's the point of my query/question, Why can't the Google bot understand Javascript ? As I said originally, using Firebug I can see what the Javascript has rendered to the DOM, so there's no good reason the Google bot can;t do the same. Granted, it cannot follow links or any of the possibly unli

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-23 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
AFAIK, the Google bot (or any other bot for that matter), does not understand Javascript. Therefore, if your entire website is built with GWT, all the Google bot will see is a javascript import for the nocache file. You'll have to search the group for Search engine optimization to get some ideas o

Re: Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-22 Thread darkflame
I think its possible exactly how you discribed. Its certainly how I planned to do it, and it seems to work. bryanb wrote: > I've searched the forum on this topic, and it appears the only way to > get a GWT site indexed is by some horrible hacks. > > If I use Firebug with Firefox, I can get the H

Search Engine Indexing

2009-01-19 Thread bryanb
I've searched the forum on this topic, and it appears the only way to get a GWT site indexed is by some horrible hacks. If I use Firebug with Firefox, I can get the HTML displayed that the Javascript is writing to the DOM, so this means it should be possible for the Google search bot to do a simi

Re: GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-11-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there any progress on this subject? On Oct 10, 5:07 pm, "Sumit Chandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > For the time being, there isn't anything that GWT can do to especially > address the search indexing problem for Ajax applications. This is a problem > inherent to how Ajax wo

Re: GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-10-10 Thread Sumit Chandel
Hello everyone, For the time being, there isn't anything that GWT can do to especially address the search indexing problem for Ajax applications. This is a problem inherent to how Ajax works versus current search engine capabilities in crawling and indexing web content. That said, Ian's solution i

Re: GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-10-08 Thread jbdhl
The GWT developer guide should definitely contain a section about this: 1) How can GWT-applications be made search engine friendly? 2) How can GWT-applications be made ADSense friendly? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-09-04 Thread Isaac Truett
You're barking up the wrong tree here. GWT is for writing AJAX/RIA/whatever-you-want-to-call-them applications. It makes the obnoxious JS bits tolerable. JS applications are inherently unfriendly to search engines. You can overcome that (as Ian has done) but it isn't going to be as simple as tossi

Re: GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-09-04 Thread JeanV
Maybe you don't care about your site being indexed by I bet you the majority of people do. I've seen Ian's example and he has done a great job but it should not be that complicated. Any comments from the GWT folks? On Sep 4, 1:38 pm, "Isaac Truett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 20

Re: GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-09-04 Thread Isaac Truett
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM, JeanV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have searched and only found one old thread discussing how to allow > a GWT-based site to be indexed by search engines. Basically the > solution involved a convoluted way of creating 2 different sites. > There's been plenty o

GWT and Search Engine indexing

2008-09-04 Thread JeanV
I have searched and only found one old thread discussing how to allow a GWT-based site to be indexed by search engines. Basically the solution involved a convoluted way of creating 2 different sites. You would think that Google would develop a toolkit that is compatible with its search engine. Wh