Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-20 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Targeted toward x86 users. Not one mention of z/OS. Disgusting. :-( Not only, but also ... Try getting the datasheet from that link. Who teaches these people about how to construct (meaningful) web pages. Bah ---

Re: C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Mürsel Taşgın
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Re: C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Mürsel Taşgın
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Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Timothy Sipples wrote: Introducing the System z10 Business Class: http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/25584.wss Targeted toward x86 users. Not one mention of z/OS. Disgusting. :-( -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 9

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: There was also the secondary use of the high bit to signal AM24 vs AM31 in addresses used for branching to/from subroutines. This required replacing BALR with BASR and BR with BSM to do the AM Mode Switch. And, the low-order bit of the address now indicates switchin

IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Introducing the System z10 Business Class: http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/25584.wss - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:00 -0500 on 10/20/2008, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:31:08 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:00:48 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought 31-bit was for compatibility with existing ex

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:31:08 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:00:48 -0500, Paul Gilmartin ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I thought 31-bit was for compatibility with existing exploitation >>of the sign bit; ... > >Nope, it was the use of a X'80' in the high-order byte of a ful

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread J R
> Nope, it was the use of a X'80' in the high-order byte of a fullword to > > terminate a variable-length parameter list (of fullwords). Isn't that the "existing exploitation of the sign bit" that Gil is alluding to? > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:31:08 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subjec

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:00:48 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I thought 31-bit was for compatibility with existing exploitation >of the sign bit; but there was no legacy convention of using >the sign bit of shorter addresses stored in a doubleword to >preserve compatibility with.

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-20 Thread Raymond Noal
Todd, You can use the 'COMMAND' JCL statement. See the JCL Reference manual. EX: //___COMMAND'S_VTAM'__comments (where underscores are blanks) HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discuss

EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-20 Thread Todd Burch
What utility program (or proc) is available that will allow me to enter operator commands via a batch job? Thanks, Todd (trying to avoid writing one.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread Ken Porowski
Looks like a pair of 6's with a 7 kicker. I wouldn't bet the house! -Original Message- Rob van der Heij On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But $173.82 for 84 pages? Plus shipping. No more worries about the Dow Jones. I'm sitting on gold! http

Re: No Source for load modules not linkedited since 1980-90's

2008-10-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Herman, If the source code is lost, did the application promotion process (development ==> QA ==> Production) by any chance save the compiler listings? Source is *much* more easily recovered from a listing than from a load module. Recovery from a listing could be handled with some Rexx code (or

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But $173.82 for 84 pages? Plus shipping. No more worries about the Dow Jones. I'm sitting on gold! http://www.rvdheij.nl/fullhouse.jpg -Rob -- For IBM

Re: Using RACF for Single Signon ( logon )

2008-10-20 Thread Jerry Fuchs
OOPS! You are correct. PSYNCH is from M-TECH MERCURY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY David Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 10/20/2008 04:09 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Using RACF for Single Signon ( l

Re: Using RACF for Single Signon ( logon )

2008-10-20 Thread David Long
I think the Vanguard product is called ez/Signon. We don't use it, so I can't comment on it. Dave Long On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:25:43 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:50:49 -0400, Jerry Fuchs ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Marv, >> >>We use Vanguard PSYNCH.

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:57:12 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Mohammad Khan wrote: >> And why was it expected to be 63 bit ? Was there an expectation that one >> bit will be used to distinguish a 63 bit address from 31 / 24 bit addresses ? > No, because there was no prior convention of using a doublewo

Re: VBM to VBA?

2008-10-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:13:26 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: > >I've never seen any IBM utility that would convert from variable to >fixed, ... > Have you tried REPRO? > ..., or convert the carriage control characters. I've always use a RYO >utility, custom built, for those transitions. > That, I don

Re: No Source for load modules not linkedited since 1980-90's

2008-10-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:23:51 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Alas, no. They give you could that, with luck, will compile into the same >object code, but it is *not* the source code, and you will have lost the >labels, variable names and comments. ... And I would

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/20/2008 1:48:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The z/Architecture Principles of Operation, SA22-7832-06, is now $1434.96! >I hope someone can correct those prices. Maybe they are in Yen. Or maybe IBM is pricing based on the expected value o

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread Jousma, David
How about this for a Program Directory: IBM Fault Analyzer for z/OS V9R1 Program Directory (GI10-8802-00) Abstract: This document contains the prerequisties and the installation information for IBM Fault Analyzer. Price: USD 41.35 The price shown above does not include taxes. Add to cart

Serena ChangeMan ZMF and Data Transmission Vehicle

2008-10-20 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
The Serena ChangeMan (v5.6.1) ZMF admin manual lists the following 'data transmission vehicle' products: IBM BDT, CONNECT:Direct, NetMaster File Transfer Management, IBM NetView FTP, and XCOM, for use with their product. If you don't have, or don't want to use any of those products, can you use

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread gah
Steve Comstock wrote: Did you know the quoted price for these little gems (that came from the original S/360 "green card") are now priced at $173.82?!! It seems that older ones have gone up, also. The S/370 reference summary, GX20-1850-07, used to be reasonably priced but is now $72.02. The

C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Bill Klein
When you say "1 VS COBOL program" Do you mean VS COBOL II or OS/VS COBOL? If it is OS/VS COBOL, then this may WELL be part of the problem. However, for either VS COBOL II or OS/VS COBOL, was the program compiled with RES or NORES? (You can use COBANAL or Edge Portfolio to find this out). If

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
I remember when I took a university course on 370 assembler language programming. A "yellow card" was a couple of bucks and we were allowed to use it when taking the tests, along with anything that we could write on it. Here we go with another "good ol days" thread :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Techno

Re: C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Arellanes
In the case of normal COBOL termination (e.g., GOBACK from main, STOP RUN, etc.) or abnormal COBOL termination (e.g., abend with TRAP(ON) in effect), COBOL will attempt to close any files that were left open and the C03 abend will be avoided. However, if an assembler program dynamically loads a

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread J R
It's probably the leather bound, gold edged, collector's edition ... what with the mainframe being dead and all. ;-) > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:15:56 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: z/Architecture Reference Summary > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > Did you know the quoted price

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:15:56 -0600, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Did you know the quoted price for these little gems >(that came from the original S/360 "green card") are >now priced at $173.82?!! > >I know they're downloadable for free, but I wanted >to hand them out to a class in t

z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-20 Thread Steve Comstock
Did you know the quoted price for these little gems (that came from the original S/360 "green card") are now priced at $173.82?!! I know they're downloadable for free, but I wanted to hand them out to a class in the little booklet form, not on 8.5 * 11 copy paper. But $173.82 for 84 pages? Plus

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mohammad Khan wrote: And why was it expected to be 63 bit ? Was there an expectation that one bit will be used to distinguish a 63 bit address from 31 / 24 bit addresses ? During the early discussions, many people expected ESAME to implement 63-bit addressing for reasons similar to why XA/3

Probably a basic MQ question

2008-10-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi list, I know very little about MQSeries except that I'm having a problem with it and I don't know enough about it to even know where to look next. We are running MQ 5.3.1 on z/OS 1.7. According to a DISPLAY ARCHIVE command, I have the ARCRETN period set to 5 days. We discovered that for some

Re: IBM PR: System z Announcement Webcast on October 21, 2008

2008-10-20 Thread Chris Mason
Radoslaw This reminds me of a comment made to me by a Russian who took me to see his ministry's[1] "computer" stand[2] at an exhibition in Sokolniki Park and then to see another ministry's stand. Disparagingly he translated one of the cards for me which, in a manner comparable to boasting how

Re: Capture Job information from spool

2008-10-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Raj, If all you want is a listing of Jobname, RC, and runtime you will probably find it much simpler to process the SMF Type 30 records, rather than trying to massage this information out of SPOOL via SDSF. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > > On your "Started JOB library member", put a valid job statement with > MSGCLASS and MSGLEVEL operands. Already had this: //CICSTECH JOB ,'TECHIE SANDBOX',MSGCLASS=8,TIME=1440 //OUT1 OUTPUT J

Re: IBM PR: System z Announcement Webcast on October 21, 2008

2008-10-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > > - > A phenomenon known as the $300,000,000 PC. > > >> > >> Frank DiGilio's Mainframe Mythbusting presentation cites the Wall > >> Street Journa

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
On your "Started JOB library member", put a valid job statement with MSGCLASS and MSGLEVEL operands. Chase, John wrote: Hi, All, Running z/OS 1.9, JES2. Like presumably most shops, we've configured JOBCLASS STC to send the joblog, et al to the bit bucket. Now wanting to retain the joblog fo

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walt Farrell > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:17:19 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > > >Like presumably most shops, we've configured JOBCLASS STC to send the > >joblog, et al to the bit bucket. Now wanting to retain the joblog

Re: IBM PR: System z Announcement Webcast on October 21, 2008

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
- A phenomenon known as the $300,000,000 PC. Frank DiGilio's Mainframe Mythbusting presentation cites the Wall Street Journal as saying distributed server farms can generate up to 3800 watts per square foot! A z9 EC generates only 312 wa

Re: VBM to VBA?

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Yeah Gil..ur right it was IEBGENER...But I heard it could not produce desired output from VBA to FB -- I've never seen any IBM utility that would convert from variable to fixed, or convert the

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Big Iron
If you've used OUTDISP to force deletion of the started task output, then you would need to override that in your OUTPUT statement. If you use a "dummy" SYSOUT class to suppress the job output, then you need to specify a different SYSOUT class, Bill On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:53:42 -0500, Chase, John

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Big Iron > > I think that you are missing a couple of things. You would at least need to > specify the new SYSOUT class on the OUTPUT statement. But from my reading of the JCL Reference, that should not be necessary;

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:17:19 -0500, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Like presumably most shops, we've configured JOBCLASS STC to send the >joblog, et al to the bit bucket. Now wanting to retain the joblog for >CICS regions, I've added an //OUT1 OUTPUT JESDS=ALL statement to the >started j

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Big Iron
I think that you are missing a couple of things. You would at least need to specify the new SYSOUT class on the OUTPUT statement. I am not sure, however, if that would work. The way that we override message class is to assign a job card to the started task (IEFJOBS) and specify MSGCLASS there. Ther

Re: OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could you start your CICS like this S CICSXX,MSGCLASS=A Assuming Class A is standard SYSOUT. The OUTPUT would be just for the JCL sysouts I think. Lizette > > Hi, All, > > Running z/OS 1.9, JES2. > > Like presumably most shops, we've configured JOBCLASS STC to send the > joblog, et al to th

OUTPUT JESDS= statement

2008-10-20 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, Running z/OS 1.9, JES2. Like presumably most shops, we've configured JOBCLASS STC to send the joblog, et al to the bit bucket. Now wanting to retain the joblog for CICS regions, I've added an //OUT1 OUTPUT JESDS=ALL statement to the started job library member for my "sandbox" CICS regio

Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-20 Thread Mohammad Khan
And why was it expected to be 63 bit ? Was there an expectation that one bit will be used to distinguish a 63 bit address from 31 / 24 bit addresses ? Mohammad On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:33:22 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It's analogous to why IBM implemented 64-bit addressing

Re: SDF II

2008-10-20 Thread Vern Mascall
-- OK, sorted. J.I.C. anyone else struggles with this, it was caused by PREFIX being set to NOPREFIX, therefore SDF2INV was trying to LIBDEF the wrong DSN. IE: The DSN should have had the userid as the HLQ. Cheers,

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

2008-10-20 Thread Sally Mason
Hi Mark and Barry, I'm sorry to take so long to reply - I think I'm on a different time zone to you (I'm in the UK) and don't work weekends normally. Plus I was stuck in meetings for most of Friday. Anyway, you are spot on with your advice and I'm really surprised that CA didn't suggest chec

XML System Services sample

2008-10-20 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Somewhere a complete XML System Services sample ? I would like to see some performance compare with the XML Toolkit -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hotl

Re: C03 abend when omiting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Roland Schiradin
Reentrant programs from authorized libraries loaded into subppol 251. All other programs are loaded into subpool 252 which is NOT fetch protected. Perhaps using CEE.SCEERUN as STEPLIB/JOBLIB looses the status of an authorized library. Unfortunally also just a guess without a dump. Verify if th

Re: C03 abend when omiting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Mürsel Taşgın
Hi Denis, CEE.SCEERUN is the last of 4 datasets in JOBLIB statement. 3 datasets prior to CEE.SCEERUN are datasets application developers' load libraries. Thanks and regards. Mürsel Taşgın BT Sistem Yönetimi Yönetici Yardımcısı Akbank Genel Müdürlüğü Sabancı Center 34330, İstanbul Tel: + 90 212 3

Re: C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-20 Thread Mürsel Taşgın
Hi, It is a DB2 Cobol program and make calls to other programs compiled with ASM, Enterprise Cobol and 1 VS Cobol program. We think that there is a problem with the program (ie. Not closing datasets properly etc.) But we cannot understand why does it work with CEE.SCEERUN in JOBLIB and doesn't wor