So I have a question.
Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to Non-SMS
datasets?
What would be the process? Repro out and back? Is there a simpler way?
I know technically this works fine, but I don’t like my system datasets being
SMS managed and the previous pe
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So I have a question.
Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS
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So I have a question.
Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to
Non-SMS datasets?
What would be the process? Repro out and back? Is there a simple
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If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If
applicable, IPL
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If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If
applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS
to clone filesystems as a regular
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Tried that, or to copy and got, I
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If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If
applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS
to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance. If they are moun
Does you SMS Storage Class list have one which can be specified to make a
dataset non SMS managed? And does your SMS ACS routines test for that non SMS
storage class and obey your wishes? If so, then add the STORCLAS parameter to
your DFDSS copy job along with the destination volume.
Also you
On 2017-09-19, at 12:55, Allan Staller wrote:
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> The short answer is delete/define and copy with pax (or copytree).
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I might do that in a different order.
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This question has overtones (undertones?) reminiscent of avoiding PDSE. Just
isn't necessary. Our HFS/ZFS files have been SMS managed for many years with no
problems. I'm pretty sure that no particular task is r
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Depends on the size. Repro would be a *VERY BAD* idea. IBM has multiple caveats
on how to handle ZFS files.
IIRC REPRO is specifically forbidden.
The short answer is delete/define and copy with pax (or copytree).
There is no pain
Extended format system ZFS files
>Although this is possible and you'd have a backup, I'd rather move chunks of
>folders at a time using USS-specific tools.
Why? What are you afraid of?
I can't remember all the details, but about 3 years ago we had to copy a really
large f
My $0.02:
It wouldn't be bad thing to create some chapter in the documentation, or
redbook with possible (correct) methods for (at least) few basic ZFS/HFS
operations.
My proposals:
* copy entire ZFS to a new ZFS
* discuss the above with non-equal parameters for source and target (EA,
SMS, may
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My $0.02:
It wouldn
W dniu 2017-09-21 o 14:01, Shaffer, Terri pisze:
I was able to use REPRO and everything worked great. The key is just do the
allocation of the ZFS and not the format as repro will copy the format and ZFS
changes to ZFS when I mounted.
That's easy to explain: you copy CI's - kind of "physical
files and attributes, etc in tack in the target file
Lizette
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Lizette Koehler
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> When I used REPRO on a zFS the same size was used no matter how the TO
> file was set up. So I think REPRO works for a like-to-like copy.
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> If you want to resize, you need to create a new zFS then use OMVS to cp
> the file with appropr
have audit authority, user audit I can
turn off as uid(0)
Carmen
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Lizette Koehler
> On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Jousma, David wrote:
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> If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If
> applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS
> to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance. If they are mounted
> READ onl
>Depends on the size. Repro would be a *VERY BAD* idea. IBM has multiple
>caveats on how to handle ZFS files.
>IIRC REPRO is specifically forbidden.
This is not true! Read the z/OS Distributed File Service zFS Administration
guide, and search for REPRO. It is a described way for certain file s
>Although this is possible and you'd have a backup, I'd rather move chunks of
>folders at a time using USS-specific tools.
Why? What are you afraid of?
I can't remember all the details, but about 3 years ago we had to copy a really
large file system into a new cluster (I think because the old
>pax -M -peW -X source target
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>Note that the pax command above will most likely need to be done with an
effective UID of 0 (I use "sudo", but installation of that is optional) and
by a user with the RACF AUDITOR attribute (the W copies the audit
attributes and requires RACF AUDITOR).
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