Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-14 Thread Mike Walter
Tom (and some others), The original post indicated use of "you could use VMUTIL, or some other home grown exec to issue a close on behalf of a disconnected machine." See the text: > Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at midnight, o

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-14 Thread Les Koehler
Back in my IBM days, I used to close all the console spool files every hour. They went to another DVM on the same system which tracked their timely arrival and then transferred them to my local DVM, which also tracked them and dealt them out to Keeper DVM'S. I, or my backup (or OPS), got MSG ale

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-14 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I use: cp spool console to maint eof Which closes the console after every 50,000 records. If you need it done at midnight or some other time, you could use VMUTIL, or some other home grown exec to issue a close on behalf of a disconnected machine. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> Mike Walter

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Scott Rohling
there. > > But putting the almighty(?) dollar first on technical issues like these is > like the "tail wagging the dog". > > > > > > *Alan Altmark * > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > 02/11/2011 07:27 PM > Please respond to > The IB

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
g the dog". Alan Altmark Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 02/11/2011 07:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times. On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 04:24 E

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 04:24 EST, Mike Walter wrote: > See? Alan's reply is precisely why I thought "it seemed prudent to run it > past others for wider consideration." > > I suspect that there will be many new LoZ (a new "Linux on System Z" > acronym seen recently, and MUCH less to type) cu

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Walter
l the knife twist right there at the end?);-) Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Alan Altmark" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 02/11/2011 03:00 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/11/2011 at 03:10 EST, Martin Zimelis wrote: > David's comment is a perfect example of the reason Rich is exactly right: The > requirement should specify the effect you want, not the method of > implementation. > > And don't forget to include the business case for the enhancemen

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Tom Huegel
Maybe a good idea, but I doubt it will fly.. With the advent of the FOR command it is simple to put "CP FOR abc CMD CLOSE CONS" in a WAKEUP file. But if they did buy it how about an enhancement to XAUTOLOG with AT hh:mm:ss? Come to think of it a full date would be better yet.. AT mm/dd/yy hh:mm:s

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Martin Zimelis
David's comment is a perfect example of the reason Rich is exactly right: The requirement should specify the effect you want, not the method of implementation. And don't forget to include the business case for the enhancement in the requirement. Marty

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times. Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at midnight, or at some time of day. z/VM old-timers have done this for ages, but new z/VM customers don't

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread David Boyes
#2, but for clarity: A) hh:mm:ss is based on CP time, or the virtual TOD in the virtual machine? B) what happens in a SSI configuration if a virtual machine moves to a new CP with a different clock? If only #2 were implemented, the new SPOOL command could be entered in the directory entry of s

Re: Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Rich Smrcina
It's probably best not to dictate how *you* want it implemented. Be very specific in the wording of the requirement and they will figure it out. On 02/11/2011 01:45 PM, Mike Walter wrote: Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at mid

Closing console (and other o/p UR devices) at midnight or other times.

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Walter
Almost every z/VM customer is forced to devise a method to close service virtual machine consoles at midnight, or at some time of day. z/VM old-timers have done this for ages, but new z/VM customers don't often have the skills necessary to implement automated closures - or even recognize the a