Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 2:14:11 PM EDT Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Tue 12/May/2020 19:09:55 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> On Tue 12/May/2020 17:48:38 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > >>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 1:09:55 PM EDT Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > On Tue 12/May/2020 17:48:38 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely > > > > wrote: > > >> On Mon 11/May/2020

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 12/May/2020 19:09:55 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> On Tue 12/May/2020 17:48:38 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Mon 11/May/2020 20:23:12 +0200 Murray S.

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Tue 12/May/2020 17:48:38 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely > wrote: > >> On Mon 11/May/2020 20:23:12 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > >>> Indeed; why would I believe what any

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 12/May/2020 17:48:38 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> On Mon 11/May/2020 20:23:12 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >>> Indeed; why would I believe what any given domain claims in this tag? >> >> If you trust the domain, you can

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Dave Crocker
On 5/12/2020 8:48 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely > wrote: On Mon 11/May/2020 20:23:12 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > Indeed; why would I believe what any given domain claims in this tag? If you trust the

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Mon 11/May/2020 20:23:12 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > Indeed; why would I believe what any given domain claims in this tag? > > If you trust the domain, you can as well trust their tagging. > If you trust the domain, you

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Hector Santos
We need to update DMARC or any other DKIM Policy proposal to seriously consider 3rd party signature Authorization methods. We have wasted so much time avoiding it. Sure, it may not apply to all, but neither does DMARC and the push to embed a "half-baked" DMARC into our mail network has

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:31:30 AM EDT Steve Atkins wrote: > On 12/05/2020 09:20, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > On Tue 12/May/2020 00:08:15 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > >> On 5/11/2020 1:33 PM, Jim Fenton wrote: > >>> There might also be the situation where a domain wants to delegate a key > >> >

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Steve Atkins
On 12/05/2020 09:20, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Tue 12/May/2020 00:08:15 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: On 5/11/2020 1:33 PM, Jim Fenton wrote: There might also be the situation where a domain wants to delegate a key Hence my suggestion that figuring out such details is where discussion could

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Adding an aim= tag to DKIM Signature Tag Specifications

2020-05-12 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 12/May/2020 00:08:15 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote: > On 5/11/2020 1:33 PM, Jim Fenton wrote: > >> There might also be the situation where a domain wants to delegate a key > > Hence my suggestion that figuring out such details is where discussion could > get interesting, if only because people