Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Karoly Negyesi: What do you really want?

2010-07-25 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 25.07.2010, at 18:05, Karoly Negyesi wrote: >> So this sounds like "bc does not interest me as long it affects >> me personally" > > You have this backwards. BC surely interests me but there is no BC, > there is only a pretense of BC so why not break it as we see fit? And > because of this p

[PHP-DEV] Re: Karoly Negyesi: What do you really want?

2010-07-25 Thread Karoly Negyesi
> So this sounds like "bc does not interest me as long it affects > me personally" You have this backwards. BC surely interests me but there is no BC, there is only a pretense of BC so why not break it as we see fit? And because of this pretense I have asked not to stop supporting PHP 5.2. Regar

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Karoly Negyesi
I said 'stable'. Last I have seen http://pecl.php.net/package/apc the latest stable was 3.0.19. Regards Karoly Negyesi -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Olivier B.
Le 25/07/2010 17:15, Kalle Sommer Nielsen a écrit : Hello 2010/7/25 Karoly Negyesi:' Extensions. APC to this day does not have a stable release for PHP 5.3. Neither has XCache. I am not even sure how do you imagine *anyone* much less everyone upgrading to 5.3 with a production site without

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hello 2010/7/25 Karoly Negyesi :' > Extensions. APC to this day does not have a stable release for PHP > 5.3. Neither has XCache. I am not even sure how do you imagine > *anyone* much less everyone upgrading to 5.3 with a production site > without a stable code cache...? You should check your so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Karoly Negyesi: What do you really want?

2010-07-25 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Reindl, On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > I really do not understand you Please do not top post and (re) consider the tone of your posts, in general. It could be a language barrier but we are here to discuss technical issues in the most friendly way. Cheers, -- Pierre

[PHP-DEV] Karoly Negyesi: What do you really want?

2010-07-25 Thread Reindl Harald
I really do not understand you First you would like to see a incomatible change without any sense because you do not like some code On the other hand you are crying about the changes in 5.3 because your code which can not live with it since you ignored warnings long time ago So this sounds like

Re: [PHP-DEV] Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.07.2010 11:17, schrieb Karoly Negyesi: > This is a very interesting decision as 5.3.0, compatibility wise, is a > major release. I always felt it was PHP 6.0 but it was not called so > because there was a development branched called that (which was later > abandoned). This is simply not tr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.07.2010 11:44, schrieb Karoly Negyesi: >>> Where previously the function would accept the by-value argument, a >>> fatal error is now emitted. > >> Not sure about this one. Do you have an example please? > > Erm, you do realized that I copied that from the handbook page? Example: > > func

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Karoly Negyesi wrote: >>> Where previously the function would accept the by-value argument, a >>> fatal error is now emitted. > >> Not sure about this one. Do you have an example please? > > Erm, you do realized that I copied that from the handbook page? Exam

[PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Karoly Negyesi
> Extensions. APC to this day does not have a stable release for PHP > 5.3. Neither has XCache. I am not even sure how do you imagine > *anyone* much less everyone upgrading to 5.3 with a production site > without a stable code cache...? Sorry, apparently XCache 1.3 version does work with 5.3 it's

[PHP-DEV] Re: Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Karoly Negyesi
>> Where previously the function would accept the by-value argument, a >> fatal error is now emitted. > Not sure about this one. Do you have an example please? Erm, you do realized that I copied that from the handbook page? Example: PHP Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Karoly Negyesi wrote: > Hi, > > A mere year after releasing Version 5.3.0 (Version 5.3.0 30-June-2009) > you are dropping PHP 5.2 support. We still support 5.2. There is a huge misunderstanding of "end of active support". It means that only critical bugs (s

[PHP-DEV] Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2

2010-07-25 Thread Karoly Negyesi
Hi, A mere year after releasing Version 5.3.0 (Version 5.3.0 30-June-2009) you are dropping PHP 5.2 support. This is a very interesting decision as 5.3.0, compatibility wise, is a major release. I always felt it was PHP 6.0 but it was not called so because there was a development branched called