Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-07 Thread Bart van Bragt
Mikael Hallendal wrote: So IMO in these cases it would be nice if there was some 'Client UI design best practices'-guide :D The fact that you are sending over Jabber shouldn't enforce anything on your UI. I think however that it's very important to have rules on how to behave with other clients

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-07 Thread Daniel Chote
This was one of the items ive always had an opinion on, since the very first day I started jabber development.. Ive tried 4 different approaches to this method now... And just from my point of view what im doing now is fairly efficient... In the original Rival, i didnt really cater for

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-07 Thread Mikael Hallendal
fre 2003-11-07 klockan 18.23 skrev Daniel Chote: This was one of the items ive always had an opinion on, since the very first day I started jabber development.. Ive tried 4 different approaches to this method now... And just from my point of view what im doing now is fairly efficient... In

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-06 Thread Bart van Bragt
Justin Karneges wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2003 02:03 pm, Mikael Hallendal wrote: This sounds like a work-around that the user has to handle himself everytime. This is really hard to solve in a nice way, other IM systems don't have the problem since they don't allow multiple logins. Hmm, IMO

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-06 Thread Mikael Hallendal
tor 2003-11-06 klockan 11.06 skrev Bart van Bragt: Hi! Hmm, IMO this is one of the implementation issues that should be at least mentioned in the specs. It's _very_ confusing for the user if different clients behave differently in this respect. I'm not saying that some behaviour should

Re:Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-06 Thread milk
Bart van Bragt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/11/2003 10:06:12: So IMO in these cases it would be nice if there was some 'Client UI design best practices'-guide :D well, there's the Jabber Client GUI Design page [ http://www.yabber. org/design/ ], but personally i think that it would be a good

[JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Mikael Hallendal
Hi! Ralph bugged me about Gossip not handling resources correctly when chatting with a person that is logged in with multiple resources. According to the spec we don't but I'm a bit unsure on how to handle this in a way that both conforms with the spec and is good for the user interface. The

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Millard
Mikael Hallendal wrote: ons 2003-11-05 klockan 19.14 skrev Joe Hildebrand: There have been clients in the past that always sent to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] jid (which is what you are suggesting), and user-experience-wise, they aren't great, since some of the messages in a conversation end up

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 10:50 am, Mikael Hallendal wrote: Any suggestions on how to handle this then? For example, I change computers and goes to my laptop, my desktop client is set to away (by autoaway or manually setting it to away), I log into my laptop. My friend who I where chatting

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Mikael Hallendal
ons 2003-11-05 klockan 21.40 skrev Justin Karneges: The solution is to inform others where you actually are. ;-) Just because you recently signed on with another resource does not indicate that you are physically there. If you have a laptop and a desktop both connected to Jabber with

RE: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Joe Hildebrand
, 2003 3:03 PM To: Jabber Devel List Subject: Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource ons 2003-11-05 klockan 21.05 skrev Peter Millard: This stuff has come from experience of the jabber community (client writers mostly). Not from a marketing droid survey of some kind. So it's

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 02:03 pm, Mikael Hallendal wrote: This sounds like a work-around that the user has to handle himself everytime. This is really hard to solve in a nice way, other IM systems don't have the problem since they don't allow multiple logins. The bottom line is that it

RE: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Joe Hildebrand
practices based on real use patterns that we've seen. -- Joe Hildebrand -Original Message- From: Mikael Hallendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:00 AM To: Jabber Devel List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

Re: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
To: Jabber Devel List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource Hi! Ralph bugged me about Gossip not handling resources correctly when chatting with a person that is logged in with multiple resources. According to the spec we don't but I'm a bit

RE: [JDEV] Chatting with the correct resource

2003-11-05 Thread Mikael Hallendal
ons 2003-11-05 klockan 19.14 skrev Joe Hildebrand: This is one of those things that is a little counter-intuitive. The language that's in the spec is correct, particularly when combined with the rule that if a message is sent to a non-existent resource, it gets delivered as if it has no