Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18/03/14 18:42, brian mullan wrote: > hey good to see you diving in . not sure if you read the > whole thread but on my orig. post I mentioned I was testing ,,, in > ubuntu 14.04.. lxc 1.x, juju and juju-gui and the new juju-bundle > for -- open

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

mark.. hey good to see you diving in . not sure if you read the whole thread but on my orig. post I mentioned I was testing ,,, in ubuntu 14.04.. lxc 1.x, juju and juju-gui and the new juju-bundle for -- openstack. On my system... everything on juju-gui eventually showed green except.. nova and

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

On 17/03/14 14:05, brian mullan wrote: > Here are a couple of scenario's for openstack/lxc that I think are > interesting. > > ARM x64 cpu are now available and use 1/8th the power of an intel cpu > ... given its hard to compare apples to oranges here. > > Ubuntu & LXC can both be used on ARM x64 s

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

Brian, I think you’re right about some things here, so let me chime in a bit: Giant Disclaimer: I work for an OpenStack SDN company. You’re point about LXC as a good “base” for cloud use is well taken. My personal feeling is (unbeknownst to my employer) is that non-virtualization

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

Here are a couple of scenario's for openstack/lxc that I think are interesting. ARM x64 cpu are now available and use 1/8th the power of an intel cpu ... given its hard to compare apples to oranges here. Ubuntu & LXC can both be used on ARM x64 systems. For today's DataCenters the biggest constr

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

Just to clear up a little confusion. OpenStack does support LXC as a “compute hypervisor” (i.e. it can be used instead of kvm, qemu, esxi, etc.). Be sure to check out the Compute Hypervisor Support Matrix for what features are supported on each (and whether they’ll be removed in the future). Ju

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

Would love to see OpenStack running in my local dev environment, but also I could use it in a dedicated server, to even use it with a juju openstack env. So, today we can't deploy OpenStack with all lxc, right? (sorry if thats the wrong question, trying to catch up) Abs, Sebas. 2014-03-17 16

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Tim Penhey wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 18/03/14 05:35, Matt Rae wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:04 AM, James Page >> It would be interesting to know what are the blockers for this to > >> work. Using the local provider has

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/03/14 05:35, Matt Rae wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:04 AM, James Page > It would be interesting to know what are the blockers for this to >> work. Using the local provider has been very convenient and it >> would be nice to be able to deploy

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

on using app-armor uncontained profile on the container. -k -- > From: brian mullan > Sent: 17/03/2014 11:30 PM > To: James Page > Cc: juju > Subject: Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum > > great information..

RE: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

age" Cc: "juju" Subject: Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum great information.. thanks James! On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:21 AM, James Page wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Brian I responded to your original mail as well - b

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:04 AM, James Page wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Brian > > On 15/03/14 10:08, brian mullan wrote: > > I thought I'd try using some of the "cool new stuff".. so with > > latest lxc 1.0 JuJu & JuJu-gui installed I decided to look at JuJu

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

great information.. thanks James! On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:21 AM, James Page wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Brian > > I responded to your original mail as well - but also detailing a bit > more here. > > On 17/03/14 12:09, brian mullan wrote: > [...] > > If O

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Brian I responded to your original mail as well - but also detailing a bit more here. On 17/03/14 12:09, brian mullan wrote: [...] > If OpenStack "could" be made to work with LXC then for linux based > workloads... OpenStack would be a great ma

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

Sorry I forgot to include the link to ON.Lab http://onlab.us/ On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:49 AM, brian mullan wrote: > Of course no sooner, had just sent my previous reply when doing further > web searches I found that PlanetLab's ONLab > OpenCloud project appears to

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Brian On 15/03/14 10:08, brian mullan wrote: > I thought I'd try using some of the "cool new stuff".. so with > latest lxc 1.0 JuJu & JuJu-gui installed I decided to look at JuJu > Bundles. > > I set my environment to local and started the OpenS

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

Of course no sooner, had just sent my previous reply when doing further web searches I found that PlanetLab's ONLab OpenCloud project appears to already be working on exactly what I was thinking of. http://www.slideshare.net/jomarcus1/onrc-open-cloud1 PlanetLab's work

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

John thanks for your note. Yes I have used Juju before to deploy and use OpenStack on KVM as well as on vmware.. *This was an experiment*. But in OpenStack the virtualization type of the vm is specified by the hypervisor configured for OpenStack (kvm, xen, vmware etc). The OpenStack site docu

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

I believe that Nova Compute itself prefers to deploy its units as KVM. (So when a user connects to your Openstack deployment and asks for a VM, they will get a KVM backed machine). IIRC, you *cannot* create a KVM container inside an LXC container. So you wouldn't be able to deploy Nova-compute int

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

OpenStack itself says it supports LXC: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/lxc.html and although a bit dated this OpenStack doc shows (under Ubuntu Natty)... some config setup info: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LXC My orig post had said 2 OpenStack "services" were left in

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

I also think that nova and lxc do not mingle well either. I've typically deployed nova in a kvm instance instead On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:26 PM, John Meinel wrote: > I'm pretty sure Quantum can't be deployed in LXC because it needs direct > access to block devices. I could be wrong. > > John > =

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova & Quantum

I'm pretty sure Quantum can't be deployed in LXC because it needs direct access to block devices. I could be wrong. John =:-> On Mar 15, 2014 2:08 PM, "brian mullan" wrote: > I thought I'd try using some of the "cool new stuff".. so with latest lxc > 1.0 JuJu & JuJu-gui installed I decided to lo