Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 04:01:18PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op donderdag 13-08-2009 om 16:46 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham > Percival: > > All right. Here's my proposal to get the docs stabilized with a > > minimum of effort: > > We have a problem using the --split=node --node-nam

Re: difference betwwen \pad-around and \pad-markup?

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 15. August 2009 05:09:40 schrieb Carl Sorensen: > On 8/14/09 6:14 PM, "Reinhold Kainhofer" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Am Samstag, 15. August 2009 01:54:17 schrieb Carl Sorensen: > >> A related prob

LyricText = markup?

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Polesky
I know that \markup { ... } can be used within Lyrics, but are all LyricText objects actually stored as markup objects internally, even when not explicitly using the \markup command? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.o

Web examples now in master. (was: integrating)

2009-08-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:04:11PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op donderdag 13-08-2009 om 16:46 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham > Percival: > > > 3) Jan, please move web-gop/texinfo/examples/*.ly into > > master/Documentation/general/examples/. > > Done. Someone should check granado

Re: difference betwwen \pad-around and \pad-markup?

2009-08-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/14/09 6:14 PM, "Reinhold Kainhofer" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Samstag, 15. August 2009 01:54:17 schrieb Carl Sorensen: >> A related problem is that when I run convert-ly as >> >> find input/regression *.ly | xargs convert-ly -e --from "2.13.3" >> >

Re: Dead lyrics context still occupies vertical space

2009-08-14 Thread Joe Neeman
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 17:09 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Dienstag, 11. August 2009 02:57:08 schrieb Joe Neeman: > > I do intend to write some docs (once I've finished dealing with my TODO > > list), but in the absence of docs, here's a l

fixing the command index (was Re: [PATCH] Add @funindex for \fffff.)

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > I agree, but see these: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-11/msg00285.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/msg00063.html > > We had a clear discussion about this issue at near the end of GDP, > and it was decided to use *both*

Re: [PATCH] Add @funindex for \fffff.

2009-08-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:01:11AM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > diff --git a/Documentation/common-macros.itexi > > b/Documentation/common-macros.it > > index a852227..eb1b5a1 100644 > > Graham, what does the above code do? It automatically adds a \ to every @funindex it

Re: difference betwwen \pad-around and \pad-markup?

2009-08-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 05:54:17PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 8/12/09 5:54 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > > Yes. Now, we could just *hope* that there's only one convert-ly > > update for each version, but that would be silly. What about > > adding: > >convert-ly --from "2.13.3" .

Re: difference betwwen \pad-around and \pad-markup?

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 15. August 2009 01:54:17 schrieb Carl Sorensen: > A related problem is that when I run convert-ly as > > find input/regression *.ly | xargs convert-ly -e --from "2.13.3" > > it does a convert-ly on all the files in input/regression/out/* an

Re: difference betwwen \pad-around and \pad-markup?

2009-08-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/12/09 5:54 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 05:43:39PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> >> Also, we need to recognize that the first commit after running convert-ly on >> the docs and the snippets will result in changes to every version statement. > > Yes. Now, we c

Re: priority problem \fermataMarkup vs. text markup

2009-08-14 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/8/14 Werner LEMBERG : > Any idea how to fix my issue? Change MultiMeasureRestText #'outside-staff-priority so it's lower than TextScript #'outside-staff-priority. > Shall this be added to the bug tracker > as a regression? I don't think so; we just need to agree on a more appropriate value

Creating books with Scheme

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Apparently Nicolas' commit da383997e929d8301424e9d320e3f5ada7cf6a58 two years ago (yeah, a long time ago, but I hadn't use that functionality until today, when I had to create dozens of examples for my girlfriend's thesis) removed the possibility to

Re: Guidelines for bounding boxes?

2009-08-14 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> However, we need a mechanism to improve the more critical cases. >> >> Maybe attaching some "ghost characters" without actual content to >> the glyphs might be possible, where the total outline is determined >> by overlaying all the bounding boxes? > > This is a very n

Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 14-08-2009 om 12:02 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Patrick McCarty: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Jan > Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > This is the part I commented out related to Opera, right? Yes, I think so. > I think this is really a problem with texi2html; I don't see why it > generat

Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op vrijdag 14-08-2009 om 16:31 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef John > Mandereau: >> Le vendredi 14 août 2009 à 16:01 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : > >> Texi2MHTML customization interface (if it ever deserves the name of an >> interface)

Re: markup help

2009-08-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
Mark, I was looking at your excellent work in organizing the Emmentaler font appendix, A.6. With no sub-headings, it's not clear what the organization of each of the sections of this appendix is. The notehead glyphs are all grouped together, and the ancient notation glyphs are all grouped togeth

Re: priority problem \fermataMarkup vs. text markup

2009-08-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> That patch changed the grob type from TextScript (?) to >> MultiMeasureText, so > > The grob type hasn't changed: if you add a markup to a multi-bar > rest, the function `script-to-mmrest-text' converts the ScriptEvent > to a MultiMeasureTextEvent. > >> yes, it changed the priority, from what I

Re: Guidelines for bounding boxes?

2009-08-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> However, we need a mechanism to improve the more critical cases. > > Maybe attaching some "ghost characters" without actual content to > the glyphs might be possible, where the total outline is determined > by overlaying all the bounding boxes? This is a very nice idea! For example, the

Re: [PATCH] Add @funindex for \fffff.

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > PS what about this? Of course, we'd need to go through and delete > all "@funindex \" lines... then again, that wouldn't be very hard. > > diff --git a/Documentation/common-macros.itexi > b/Documentation/common-macros.it > index a852227..eb1b5a1 100644 > --- a/Documentation

Quoting \set and \override (for cue notes etc.)

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Some time ago we had this discussion that \overrides are not quoted from the original music when you use \cueDuring or \quoteDuring. Unfortunately, this also means that accacciaturas will be quoted wrong, since the slash through the note will not be quoted (so singers will usually read the quot

Re: patch to fix text color in PDF output

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 14. August 2009 18:33:16 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk: > www.musicbyandrew.ca/essayCMYKblack.pdf - original [...] > On every combination of OS, PDF viewer, and B&W laser printer that I > have tried, the original text is rendered just a shade lighter than > true black, both on-screen and i

Re: [PATCH] Re: feature-request / doc-actualization (right-margin)

2009-08-14 Thread Michael Käppler
Hmm...there's a new problem I don't understand. If I set a breakpoint in lily-parser.cc:225 (get_paper) and call normalize() from there, it seems that all "default" variables which are set in paper-defaults-init.ly aren't accessible. What's the reason for this? Are the *.ly-initfiles parsed lat

operators, datatypes, keywords

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Polesky
I'm trying to get a better understanding of LilyPond the "programming language". Can someone look this over? Am I on the right track? As an example of some of the confusion I'm having, it seems to me that there are 3 categories of datatypes. That seems wrong, but I don't know how to resolve it. Can

Re: patch to fix text color in PDF output

2009-08-14 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Andrew Hawryluk writes: > >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Sure do.  So what driver with what setting converts your PDF to the >>> respective printer language? >> >> Good question. >> At home: Samsung ML-2010,

Re: Dead lyrics context still occupies vertical space

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 11. August 2009 02:57:08 schrieb Joe Neeman: > I do intend to write some docs (once I've finished dealing with my TODO > list), but in the absence of docs, here's a list of spacing variables. > They all take alists with the same entries (s

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support vs email

2009-08-14 Thread demery
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009, Mark Polesky said: >> If all \foo were right-associative it would be easy to read them. Is it >> possible to make monadic operators right-associative so as to end this >> confusion? Yes, i realize this could have a nasty impact; if done at all >> it would mean devising a

Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 14-08-2009 om 16:31 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef John Mandereau: > Le vendredi 14 août 2009 à 16:01 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : > Texi2MHTML customization interface (if it ever deserves the name of an > interface) has changed in CVS, this issue might not show up with 1.82. > BTW

Re: [PATCH] Re: feature-request / doc-actualization (right-margin)

2009-08-14 Thread Michael Käppler
Probably because cloning an output-def does not copy the parent_ pointer (so recursive lookups are broken by ly:paper-params-normalize). Joe Thanks, Joe, for pointing this out. Now, after thinking a lot about it, I will try a different approach and control/modify the paper values immediat

Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 14 août 2009 à 16:01 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : > We have a problem using the --split=node --node-names that we use > for the current web [general]: translated files get different > names, ie for Introduction (nl: Inleiding) > > http://lilypond.org/~janneke/lilypond.org/In

Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 13-08-2009 om 16:46 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham Percival: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 05:25:57PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > > Le jeudi 13 août 2009 à 01:31 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : > All right. Here's my proposal to get the docs stabilized with a > minimum of eff

Re: Fixing bugs #379 and #427

2009-08-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > Hello, > > I've decided to dive into deep waters (the slur code) and try to fix > the popular "ugly slur" bugs, #379 and #427. > > See the attached patch for the progress I've made.  Also attached is > an image of Mark Polesky's example f

Re: PATCH: Improved tablature support

2009-08-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Mark Polesky schrieb: * there are single and double angle-brackets here. Recently I've noticed some e-mail clients and/or mailing list archives do weird things with them (like removing them). Just in case you think I accidentally left something out! Yes, the closing angled bracket is n

Re: Guidelines for bounding boxes?

2009-08-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/11 Mark Polesky : > > Then I propose the following Dutch->English changes: Added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=830 (just in case we can't do it in a near future) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypon

Re: Guidelines for bounding boxes?

2009-08-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 14. August 2009 06:54:45 schrieb David Kastrup: > Werner LEMBERG writes: > >> FWIW, I used to think that this would be a very important feature; > >> now I'm not so sure. There are certainly a few cases (eg. slurs, > >> hairpins, treble cl

Re: integration of general/web in main

2009-08-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 13-08-2009 om 16:46 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham Percival: > 1) Jan, please merge automated-engraving into essay/. Done. I've kept the actual files in the separate automated-engraving directory. Also, I added a hack to web-texi2html.init. > 3) Jan, please move web-gop/te

Re: PATCH: Arrowed accidentals for microtone notation

2009-08-14 Thread Graham Breed
2009/8/14 Joseph Wakeling : > I'd prefer not to do that for semantic reasons.  In my conception of > arrow-notated quarter-tones, C-quarter-sharp is enharmonically, but not > semantically, the same as C-sharp-quarter-flat (just as D# is > enharmonically but not semantically the same as Eb). What

Re: patch to fix text color in PDF output

2009-08-14 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Hawryluk writes: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Sure do.  So what driver with what setting converts your PDF to the >> respective printer language? > > Good question. > At home: Samsung ML-2010, SpliX V. 2.0.0 on Ubuntu 9.04 (evince or > acroread) What print