Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext (?)

2011-08-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 02:21:11PM -0700, harm6 wrote: > > Xavier Scheuer wrote: > > \RemoveEmptyStaffContext has been replaced by \Staff \RemoveEmptyStave > > in version 2.13.something. > > I didn't found \RemoveEmptyStaffContext in the docs, but there is a > definition in engraver-init.ly (vers

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:01:32PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > My question is: what can we do, as a community, to overcome this > type of hurdle? There is a lot we could do to "spread the word". - send release announcements to more places. I've only ever announced things to lilypond-i

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 08:33:11AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > > > I am very surprised that so many of the LilyPond users are composers! > > I was quite sure that Lily is mostly suited for engravers and editors. > > Well, what would you call it if you are practicing mus

Re: New LilyPond tutorial

2011-08-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 07:40:50PM -0600, Colin Campbell wrote: >Very nicely done, indeed, Urs! Thanks for putting this together. Graham, >would this be something to be linked from LM? The normal thing to would be to add a link to the wiki. Cheers, - Graham

Re: New LilyPond tutorial

2011-08-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:42:23AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > > > 2011/8/24 Graham Percival : > >> The normal thing to would be to add a link to the wiki. > > > > Which is down at the moment, if i'm not mistaken? Could be.

Re: 2.14 will not wrap past 2nd staff - bug or bad input?

2011-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 07:52:26PM -0400, Albert Finney wrote: > Lilypond 2.14 PDF puts all of the music on 2 staves, even through it > should be 3-4 pages. It wraps the first staff (like "word wrap" is > on, as an analogy). But the second staff, "word wrap" is off and all > of the music just run

Re: building faillure

2011-09-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:08:26AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > $(outdir)/general-scheme.o: $(outdir)/version.hh > $(outdir)/lily-guile.o: $(outdir)/version.hh > $(outdir)/lily-version.o: $(outdir)/version.hh ... > Graham: git grep version.hh gives: > > lily/general-scheme.cc:#include "version.hh"

Re: preprocessing an included file with system command

2011-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 01:30:55PM -0400, Michael Ellis wrote: > Note: what I'm actually trying to do with the preprocessing, as > opposed to the trivial example above, is something that cannot be > done easily with a music function. I know about the --evaluate > command line option but that's al

Re: High-level users?

2011-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:24:18PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and > MuseScore should be integrated. What does that mean? - better lilypond export for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. - lilypond import for musescore: go ahe

maxosx support for 10.4 to 10.7, test binaries

2011-09-25 Thread Graham Percival
There are darwin-ppc and darwin-x86 binaries here: http://lilypond.org/~graham/ There is one report that the x86 version fails to work on 10.5.8, which seems odd since I would have expected more complaints if that was the case. If you have a mac, could you check those binaries? Make sure you dow

Re: maxosx support for 10.4 to 10.7, test binaries

2011-09-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:52:47PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 2011-09-26 um 07:31 schrieb Graham Percival: > > >There are darwin-ppc and darwin-x86 binaries here: > >http://lilypond.org/~graham/ > > 10.5.8 here, too. Your binary*, Thanks for the reminder; I&#

Re: transposing octaves for a piano part

2011-10-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 05:35:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > David Rogers writes: > > > Steve Downes writes: > > > >> I am finding finding my way round the manuals a bit convoluted at > >> present & merging info from one section into a script styled on > >> another very hit & miss. No doubt

Re: articulating a group of notes

2011-10-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:40:18PM -0300, Pato Press wrote: >Is there a way to articulate a group of notes? Or I have to add to each >note the same articulation? You need to write a scheme function to do it, but it's not hard: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=82 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it

Re: .bin files in Lilypond

2011-10-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:43:33PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2011/10/10 Frits Verhaeghe : > > As a new user of Lilypond, I received from another user some .bin-files. How > > can I open this .bin-files? > > Those .bin files were produced by lilypond? That's very strange if > it's true. LilyP

Re: King Arthur

2011-10-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:32:48AM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > I have a question. Many publish on Mutopia. Others on CPDL > (Choralwiki). Others on IMSLP. Some have their own source repo, e.g. > nenuvar by N.Sceaux. Now, I have The Fairy Queen in LP (not by me) > and before submitting it I h

Re: segfault in 2.14.2 debian package

2011-10-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:44:52PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: >Also, I had v2.14.2 already installed in my home directory. IIRC, apt >upgrade removed the lilypond package in my home. Is it possible? No, it is not possible that apt would touch anything in your home directory. Cheers, - G

Re: Creating Musical Examples without Meter

2011-10-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:43:46PM -0500, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote: > As far as I can tell, the only tool to notate "unmetered" > music is the \cadenzaOn,\cadenzaOff pair of tags. > Am I right about this, or are there other ways? Proportional notation? maybe as well as manually scaling d

Re: metrical structure

2011-10-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:29:48AM -0200, luis jure wrote: > > on 2011-10-31 at 09:02 Christ van Willegen wrote: > > >Perhaps using lyrics would stack up all the dots? > > this seems to be a good idea, indeed. it never occurred to me becuase i > never used lyrics, and i never paid any attention

Re: metrical structure

2011-10-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:54:12PM -0200, luis jure wrote: > > on 2011-10-31 at 13:18 Graham Percival wrote: > > >Why not use a grid? It's in the Editorial chapter of Notation. > > from the description ("Vertical lines can be drawn between staves > syn

Re: Creating Musical Examples without Meter

2011-11-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 02:46:58PM -0500, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote: > > Graham Percival writes: > > > > Proportional notation? maybe as well as manually scaling > > distances with *15/16 and stuff like that? > > Okay, the syntax I am using in my exampl

Re: Cheat Sheet

2011-11-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:30:15AM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 09.11.2011 17:31, schrieb David Kastrup: > >"Trevor Daniels" writes: > > > >>This is a popular misconception, but it is wrong, as > >>you can see by introducing various accidentals. > >I was merely quoting the manual, so if you have s

Re: Call for help

2011-11-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 01:50:24PM -0500, Ralph Palmer wrote: >I haven't read all the contributor/issues documentation yet, so I don't >know what the "daily" time commitment is. 20 minutes. Absolutely no more. I highly encourage the use of a kitchen timer. (sure, you could use a computer

Re: ERROR: Wrong type (expecting pair): ()

2011-11-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 03:03:31PM -0800, Shevek wrote: > > Aha, line numbers are indeed progress. However, the line numbers for the > error are in some lilypond library file, so that's unhelpful in tracking > down the problem. Here's the relevant part of the compile messages: > > /usr/local/lily

Re: ERROR: Wrong type (expecting pair): ()

2011-11-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 03:24:42PM -0800, Shevek wrote: > > Out of 5000+ lines of code with no idea where to start? That's looking for a > needle in a haystack. I was hoping someone might be able to suggest the sort > of thing that can cause this error, so I at least know what color the needle > i

Re: Staff spacing snippet

2011-12-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 01:39:48AM -0800, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: > the manual that came with my 2.14.2 distribution, is there a > newer one out? It appears the HTML manual online is also 2.12. All manuals are online. If you look at the v2.12 manual, you'll see 2.12.3. If you look at the

Re: Staff spacing snippet

2011-12-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:54:20AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 01:39:48AM -0800, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: > >> the manual that came with my 2.14.2 distribution, is there a > >> newer one out? It appears

Re: Segmentation Fault (Midi News Flash)

2011-12-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 07:05:35PM -0500, Craig wrote: > This is the main issue with reporting such bugs with lilypond. Let's > say I start reducing this problematic file, I reduce the project down to > a single file, and then the bug goes away. Then you did a bad job of reducing it. When constr

Re: how to make a songbook

2011-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:20:30AM -0500, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: > OOoh! What should I be looking for? So far in the OOo document the > display looks fine. Even at fairly high magnitude. My son also made > a cryptic comment about 300 dpi. I *am* prepared to give this up as a > lost cause

Re: Release news, development news, state of the world

2011-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 07:06:56AM -0700, Colin Campbell wrote: > FWIW, I've found that GUB on x86-64 Oneiric will choke building > cross-compiled components, with error messages saying "unable to > identify extension of x", where x is the x.o form of a tool. This > points, according to GCC, to m

Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:13:42PM +, Alberto Simões wrote: > As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to: > > http://lilypond.org/web/install/ > > or add a redirect there. This has been in the tracker for over a year. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1163 h

Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 08:54:04PM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote: > >> LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a > >> script ~/bin/lilypond: > >> exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@" > >> On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one ca

Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:06:14PM +, Alberto Simões wrote: > Cloned the lilypond git repository: > git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git > > To try to understand where http://lilypond.org/web/install/ is > comming from, I grepped for "whetted your appetite" and "whetted" > (not that a usual wor

mentor needed (was: Taking the old website down)

2011-12-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 02:19:49PM +, Alberto Simões wrote: > > On 12/21/11 13:56 , Graham Percival wrote: > >I highly recommend that you read > >http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/summary-for-experienced-developers > >http://lilypond.org

Re: Minor typo in documentation

2011-12-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 08:59:39PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2011/12/21 Alberto Simões : > >  EXAMPLES=$BUILD_DIR/Documentation/web/ly-examples/ > >  EXAMPLES=$BUILD_DIR/Documentation/ly-examples/ > > inside Documentation/ I see three cases of this. > > Should all three be changed? See Yes

Re: mailing list fot italian users

2011-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 01:05:42PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: > But I can't find a place which explains how to create a new mailing > list on gnu.org I create it, if there's enough demand. How many people want an italian list? Cheers, - Graham ___ l

Re: instrument name or \markup question

2011-12-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:21:46PM +0100, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > We can raise a new issue. But I'm not sure I will be able to submit a > patch soon. (And I'm not up-to-date on what shall be done before > submitting patches nowadays.) 366-word summary here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Document

Re: Auto-beaming in tuplets?

2011-12-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 04:18:04PM +0100, Rutger Hofman wrote: > >This is fixed in the latest development version. > > Is it strongly disadvised to upgrade to that for 'stable' usage? Yes. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@

Re: Bug squad - updated list

2012-01-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 03:15:45PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "-Eluze" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: Bug squad - updated list > >i believe i've set up my email client correctly but i seem not to get any > >mails in the bug-answe

Re: Undress While Playing - Thank you Lilypond ;)

2012-01-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:05:03AM +0100, Nils wrote: > Are you serious? This was the most harmless picture you can imagine. I find nothing objectionable about it, but we should bear in mind that cultural norms vary quite a bit; Europeans are generally much more accepting of nudity than North Amer

Re: Undress While Playing - Thank you Lilypond ;)

2012-01-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:36:27AM +0100, Nils wrote: > > P.S. And many of the new visitors were from this list. I guess this would be > the clergy :) Next time I will aim for the doubled increase by not using > grown women but boys. That final remark? *Not* appropriate for this mailing list.

user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:50:13AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > 2012/1/23 Xavier Scheuer : > > why I never *demand* > > developers to fix an issue, even if it is one that is really annoying > > my ego in almost every score I typeset. > > One thing comes to my mind: you are talking about bugs t

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:27:56PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > >Of course, a 96-hour reponse rate isn't precisely fantastic, but > >it's a start. > > Well - TBH time isn't of the essence as a general rule. Whether a > bug gets added to the tracker in one day or 3 rarely affects the > overall deve

verifying \chordmode neglects point-and-click (fixed)

2012-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
Some kind of error with chordmode was fixed. Can somebody check this works? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022 - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 02:29:00PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: > So I looked into the National Endowment for the Arts and the > National Endowment for the Humanities. I could see this funding Americans to work on lilypond programming while living in America. I could see this potentially funding A

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012-02-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 07:11:26PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 2/8/12 11:01 AM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > >I can not see this funding non-Americans working outside of > >America. > > If you look at the links, many of the successful grants either

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development on LilyPond

2012-02-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:00:21AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Do you know of any famous pieces of music without freely accessible > scores? I have only one shot now, but it isn't perfect: Samuel > Barber's "Adagio for Strings" was composed in 1936 but the composer > died not-so-long-ago (1981).

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development onLilyPond

2012-02-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:14:49PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > If one can put together a good roadmap. But in this case, the "let's > put up a front for collecting money for David" angle is insufficient. > There is a considerable amount of planned work to do by different > people. Agreed. I su

Re: Thinking about putting together a grant to support development onLilyPond

2012-02-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:30:12PM +, Graham Percival wrote: > 2) set up a kickstarter to "perfect" that score, where "perfect" > means "work on lilypond such that good output is produced with > only semantic information". No tweaks, no workarounds, e

Re: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:06:18AM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > Following the link to 7.2 Adding and editing snippets I read: > "If the new snippet uses new features that are not available in the > current LSR version, the snippet should be added to > ‘Documentation/snippets/new’ and a reference s

Re: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:40:49AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > >On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:06:18AM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > >Unfortunately nobody has organized updating LSR to 2.14, so there > >will

Re: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:03:01PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > >On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:40:49AM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > >Since nobody is willing to either update the files himself, or > >organize o

Re: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:25:33PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" > > >You have impressive email filters. > > I think you'll find that one of the volunteers here has been doing a > full LSR import whenever i

Re: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:09:21PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi Phil, > > 2012/2/18 Phil Holmes : > > > I'd approach this from a different direction.  First of all - have a look at > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/updating-lsr-to-a-new-version huh, I'd completely f

Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:27:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > So if it is not too much work to collect triplets of "version #, before, > after convert-ly, after correct change", it might be a nice base for > looking how to improve the convertrules file. David, are you volunteering to produce pa

Re: Printing bar numbers for partial measures

2012-02-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:40:46PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Xavier Scheuer writes: > > > And I have a life besides that (with work, duties, etc.). > > My entire time is not dedicated to LilyPond. > > But you expect others to have their "entire time" dedicated to LilyPond > and raise a stink

Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-02-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:37:12PM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi David, > > 2012/2/21 David Kastrup : > > You just did not try hard enough.  It was a really obscure bug in the > > lexer.  I'll commit a fix to staging once make check goes through. > > not sure I understand. David's trying to b

Re: Is there an equivalent of #define ... #ifndef ... #endif in lilypond?

2012-02-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:45:43AM -0800, Michael Hendry wrote: > > Is there a simple guide to the application of patches? - I'm looking for a > step-by-step Delia Smith-style recipe as opposed to a more relaxed Jamie > Oliver one, which might not be correct in every detail! There is no simple gu

Re: printed stems in OS X vs Windows 7

2012-02-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 02:42:09PM -0500, Bryn Hughes wrote: >Overall, I'd say that the rendering on Windows looks much better, >though it'd be nice to have full control of formatting as well. There _are_ some minor differences in the pdf output on various platforms, but in this case my mo

Re: Conversion to MIDI ?

2012-03-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 10:48:41AM -0500, PMA wrote: > Oh dear. Thanks. I'll sound out the Debian forum > re what's maybe in development along these lines. This is an active research topic. It's similar to computer recognition of handwriting or speech recognition. Best place to look is google

Re: Fatal Error on Launching 2.15.31

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 02:34:56PM -0600, Rembrandt Wolpert wrote: > It's an error since version 2.15.30, in the bug-reports, but not acted > upon (why? it's so easy?) I don't know. Why didn't you send a patch? - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: LSR updates: was: polychords: a working solution

2012-03-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 12:07:09AM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > I just downloaded the LSR.tarball from today and ran a last successful test. > I'd like to send it to Sebastiano. Please do. > Shall we postpone the change of the description for > increasing-spacing-between-staves.ly? No; if there

Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: > > There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version > 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says "MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.". As such, any failure to run on 10.7 i

lilypond 2.15.33 kind-of a release candidate

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
LilyPond 2.15.30 is out; this is not a actual release candidate but it can be considered as an "unofficial" candidate. All users are invited to experiment with this version. New features since 2.14.2 are listed in the “Changes” manual on the website section about Development. http://lilypond.org/d

Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port

2012-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:59:34AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Francisco Vila writes: > > > 2012/3/10 : > >> FreeBSD users who wish to test the recently-released 2.15.33 > >> candidate may download an ad-hoc port from: > >> > >> ftp://umpquanet.com/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar > > > > What m

Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port

2012-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 01:15:39PM -0800, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: > This port provides a minimal framework compatible with the > FreeBSD ports system which permits any ports-enabled BSD system > to use standard BSD management tools (portupgrade, pkg_delete, > etc.) to build, package, install,

Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port

2012-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:00:43PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: > > > Forgive me, I don't mean to be evasive. The official FreeBSD > > ports tree includes only 2.14.2 at present (as the print/lilypond > > port). Given that a call for testers was made recently, I >

Re: Where in the mauals ...

2012-03-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 09:38:52PM -0400, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: > I've been scouring the manuals for how to make some notes within a piece > smaller than the surrounding ones. Where on earth do I find that reference? Learning manual, "Size of objects" ? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Docume

Re: musicxml2ly

2012-05-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 09:33:09AM +0200, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > I did not see a reaction to this question, so I try again. What > happened with this musicxml2ly bug ? First chords were printed below > the staff, then I think it was fixed, and now the chords are below > the staff again. Regr

Re: Lilypond to xml -singing voice festival

2012-05-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 05:07:03AM -0700, fresco wrote: > > fresco wrote: > > > > David Kastrup wrote: > >> > >> fresco writes: > >> > But when I try to insert: > \include "festival.ly" > #(set! song:*debug* #f) > \festival #"bach-präl.xml" { \tempo 4 = 100 } > > Basically

Re: Source management tools for lilypond projects

2012-05-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:36:35PM +0200, Christian Andersson wrote: > Now, sit down and await all flames from proponents of all the other tools! Saving different versions of files to floppy disks and writing a label in a thick pen was good enough for us in 1986. Especially when we re-used a flop

Re: mention canceled releases on website? (was: status of release 2.16.0)

2012-05-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 08:53:05AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Neil Thornock wrote: > > Not sure why nothing was mentioned on the website. > > I'm not happy with this practice, either. I eagerly await your patch. If it looks ok I'll tell you to push directly t

Re: suppress warnings

2012-05-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 05:01:40PM +0200, Peter O'Doherty wrote: > Is it possible to suppress specific (expected) warnings? No, unfortunately. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond

Re: status of release 2.16.0

2012-05-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 01:02:01AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > there is a long-ish explanation about the release process in our > latest LilyPond Report: > http://news.lilynet.net/?The-LilyPond-Report-26#the_road_to_2_16 Can we get a news item for this? and maybe a (general) email to the u

Re: Beaming regression 2.15.39 compared to 2.14.2

2012-05-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:19:29PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > On 24 mai 2012, at 12:04, Urs Liska wrote: > > A regression is something that doesn't work in a later version and that has > > _deliberately_ worked in a previous version. I.e. something that has once > > been fixed to work

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:05:02PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > David's right. However, i think it would be ok to add a "monthly > donations progress bar" on the sponsoring subpage > (http://www.lilypond.org/sponsoring.html), under David's name. > What do you think? To me this would be more like

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:30:01AM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2012/6/1 Graham Percival : > > And lilynet is a good place for "experimental" / "unofficial" stuff. > > Well, http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/Special:RecentChanges -snip problems- >

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 04:38:24PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Now i've found > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-12/msg00124.html > and it looks like the discussion happened when i was absent. As per GOP 6, it was a private email discussion so no archives are available. >

Re: Lilypond source code indenter and formatter

2012-06-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 12:44:00AM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > Is anyone on the list aware of a tool that takes a valid Lilypond > score as input and produces as output the same .ly file but with the > formatting and layout standardized? Yes and no. Various editors can do this. http://code.goog

Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages

2012-06-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:49:28AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > From: David Kastrup > > > > The important border > > is that between LilyPond and Scheme.  Here is where empowerment of the > > user happens.  Or not. > > Can you explain a little about how that empowerment happens? Users can

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012-06-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:22:55AM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > > Any simplification of lilypond syntax must mean a removal > > of features. > > With all due respect, that is IMHO incorrect. Lilypond's syntax > could be simplified through pursu

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas > >wrote: > >> I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended > >> by a polite "thanks, but no > >> thanks".) I'm afraid that my first reaction is "thanks, but no

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > If that's correct, I guess your initial "thanks, but no thanks" > is directed more to the possibility of my becoming a more > serious contributor, Yes. > I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded > cheatsheet on my own

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense > of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people > into trying to get involved. That's because you are an excellent programmer, mathemat

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Do we know about http://tunefl.com ? > > Also, should we be mentioning commercial services like scorio.com > on our website? Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU coding standards are quite clear on

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 10:11:09AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > Commercial services are ok, but non-Free software is not. The GNU > > coding standards are quite clear on this: > > > > "A GNU pr

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 03:57:00PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > >> > "A GNU program should not recommend, promote, or grant legitimacy > >> > to the use of any non-free program. Proprietary software is a > >> > social an

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:40:58PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > and you can see a nice old/new comparison here: > http://news.lilynet.net/IMG/gif/clef_comparison.gif). -snip- > PS concerning the girl, she's pretty indeed, but some of the /priests/ > using Lily might have a problem with that :)

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:03:45PM -0700, David Rogers wrote: > I'm not a priest. However, I still don't like the picture. I agree. It reminds me of sleazy 1990s CD-roms selling shareware sofware. > I don't think that's the best possible impression Lilypond can > give. Fortunately, that website

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Mike Blackstock writes: > > > I agree. As I pointed out, the model was meant to personify Aquinas' > > definition of 'beauty' and tie that in with the beauty of Lilypond. We > > disagree on what 'sleaze' is. Not how 'gatekeeper' com

Re: tunefl and other web services

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Percival
beer - let's agree on that at least ? > >;) > > -Mike > > >On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Graham Percival ><[1]gra...@percival-music.ca> wrote: > >On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:57:02AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Mike Blackstock <[2]bl

Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to > 28th. Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters. > > http://news.lilynet.net/?LilyPond-meeting-in-Waltrop> To get the ball rolling, I'm flying in to D

Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:35:09PM +0200, Nils wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:40:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > > Location is Waltrop near Dortmund in Germany, date is August 24th to > > > 28th. Here is the web site, and the agenda for starters. > > > > > > http://news.lilynet.net/?Li

Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 04:52:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > Does anybody know if it's possible to rent a low-quality (say, > > 640x480) VGA projector for a weekend in Germany for any reasonable > > price? assuming that David has any wal

Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-07-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 06:31:31PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Ok, what else... you've mentioned "more people able to roll > > releases", which would be a fantastic way to increase our bus > > factor. > > I think we

Re: Enc2ly: converter from Encore to Lilypond (GPLv3+)

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:35:08PM +, Felipe Castro wrote: > I have written a little program to convert from that infamous format, Encore, > so > that I may use many scores available on the web, without much effort to > retype > everything in lilypond. > > Here it is: > http://enc2ly.sourc

Re: Dealing with Deprecation (Was Re: Vertical spacing: Was between-system-space deprecated?)

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 04:25:54PM -0500, ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com wrote: > > Does such a large revision of syntax where keywords are deprecated > happen often? How do people who have large collections of lilypond > scores deal with this? This is indeed a problem. The developers are currently

Re: Lilypond syntax

2012-07-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:01:01PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > Some weeks back there was some discussion of the Lilypond > syntax, I made some suggestions and was asked to write up a > sample .ly file with the ideas I had in mind. Basically my > notion was to separate content (notes and chords) f

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:31:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > At the time the 2.16 branch will be cut, the versioning for the unstable > branch will need to advance to 2.17 in order to maintain an ordered > relation between version numbers and LilyPond language. Do you mean 2.16 instead of 2

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > >> What versioning should I be using for the release > >> candidates? Numerically, one has the options to start with > >> > >> 2.15.95 > > > > why

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:21:34PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > >> If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed. > >> There is no point dragging it along as purely dead weight we should not > >> be using.

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