Re: Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-30 Thread Tim Kuntz
Stewart wrote:> > Dear Ed, > > Thanks for taking the discussion further. Threads about left-hand > fingering may appear boring and unnecessarily academic to some > s*bscr*b*rs, but this discussion, I believe, is of fundamental > importance to anyone who plays the lute. My comments are scattered >

Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-30 Thread Stewart McCoy
ing the correct order in which fingers should hold down the strings of any particular chord. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004

Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-30 Thread Stewart McCoy
your 5th course. :-) Best wishes, Stewart. - Original Message - From: "Stephan Olbertz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:41 AM Subject: Re: Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick? > Am 30 Sep 2004 um 12:10 hat Ed Durbr

Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-30 Thread Stewart McCoy
- Original Message - From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick? Dear Ed, T

Re: Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-30 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 30 Sep 2004 um 12:10 hat Ed Durbrow geschrieben: > >By the way, the left-hand fingerings in _Varietie_ do not involve > >fancy barrés with fingers other than the 1st finger. For example, > >_Varietie_ gives > > > >__1b_2d___ > >__3c_4f___ > >__2c_3f___ > >___

Re: Hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-29 Thread Ed Durbrow
>Dear Ed, > >That E flat chord > >_a_ >_b_ >_b_ >_c_ >_d_ >___ > >has been discussed before. I know some people have difficulty with >it, but it is one of my favourite chords. It is not difficult, >unless the ends of your fingers are particularly thin. > >Robert Dowland's _Varietie_ (London, 1610)

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-29 Thread Stewart McCoy
- Original Message - From: "Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:34 PM Subject: Re: Songs by A.Schlick? > I think Virdung uses a chord that requires two different notes to be played on >

hard chords: was Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-29 Thread Ed Durbrow
> Schlick >was very rude about Virdung, saying that Virdung had written an >impossible chord for the lute: L.c.4.kk, which looks like this in >French tablature: > >_h_ >_a_ >_b_ >___ >___ >_d_ I can just play that on my A lute, but I doubt I'd be able to 'land' on it in any musical context. Sham

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
r<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=20 To: Lute Net<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Songs by A.Schlick? Stewart McCoy wrote: > Dear Arto, >=20 > There is a modern edition published by Ugrino Verlag, Hamburg, in > 1957.

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
AIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Songs by A.Schlick? > Dear Stewart, > > this chord is almost unplayable (I can just manage it, but I probably > have quite large hands), but it sounds weirdish

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2004-09-28 Thread Elias Fuchs
ybody else could find out where to get the words from, that would be wonderful. Elias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Arto Wikla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. September 2004 21:25 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Songs by A.Schlick? Dear lutenists, as far as I know, ther

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Rainer
Stewart McCoy wrote: > Dear Arto, > > There is a modern edition published by Ugrino Verlag, Hamburg, in > 1957. Goodness knows if it is still in print. It has a few facsimile > pages. > > I also have a facsimile edition published by the Zentralantiquariat > der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik_

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Rainer
Gernot Hilger wrote: > Dear Stewart, > > this chord is almost unplayable (I can just manage it, but I probably > have quite large hands), but it sounds weirdish, to say the least. It > could of course be fingered with an f on the 4th course making it much > easier. Might I ask you to provide on

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Gernot Hilger
Dear Stewart, this chord is almost unplayable (I can just manage it, but I probably have quite large hands), but it sounds weirdish, to say the least. It could of course be fingered with an f on the 4th course making it much easier. Might I ask you to provide one bar before and after the event

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
t stands, but one wonders what had rattled Schlick's cage for him to be so unpleasant towards Virdung. All the best, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: "Arto Wikla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:25 PM Subj

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Denys Stephens
gt; To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:25 PM Subject: Songs by A.Schlick? > > Dear lutenists, > > as far as I know, there are some intabulated lute songs by > Arnolt Schlick. Perhaps 1520's? Does any of you happen to > know anything of these? Ar

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, as far as I know, there are some intabulated lute songs by Arnolt Schlick. Perhaps 1520's? Does any of you happen to know anything of these? Are they printed or ms.? Are there any published re-prints or at least modern editions? Thanks! Arto -- http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wik