[Mailman-Users] Re : Re : same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-14 Thread Enzo
In fact i've found this patch: http://al.blog.free.fr/mailman/mailman-vh-2.1.5.patchAnd no problem to apply it, but now i've great difficulties to make it work with my postfix install I, in fact, use /etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py. It used to work with mailman 2.1.5, but no more with this

[Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Rick Pasotto
I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user is that is rejecting the email. There are several AOL addresses subscribed but only one rejection each time a mailing goes out. 1) Have I

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. Welcome to the wonderful world of AOL retards. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user is that is rejecting the email. There are several AOL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re : Re : same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Enzo wrote: In fact i've found this patch: http://al.blog.free.fr/mailman/mailman-vh-2.1.5.patch And no problem to apply it, but now i've great difficulties to make it work with my postfix install I, in fact, use /etc/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py. It used to work with mailman 2.1.5, but no more

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re : Re : same list name on 2 different domains

2007-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
I don't think I've ever heard of this particular patch before -- why don't you ask this question of the person who wrote this patch? -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2007, at 3:26 AM, Enzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact i've found this patch:

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
On 7/14/07 9:38 AM, Rick Pasotto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user is that is rejecting the email. There are several AOL addresses subscribed

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:00:56 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. Welcome to the wonderful world of AOL retards. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/14/07, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: But beware... I recently wrote to two subscribers that we have been sending free content to, and as kindly as possible, I wrote that clicking spam makes it very difficult for us and other AOL users to send/receive the content. I also notified them that

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, As Larry Stone mentioned, just put something in the headers and footers of every message, which tells AOL users that they will have their entire domain permanently banned from the list, if you get too many spam complaints. Then carry through on that threat when it happens.

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you use VERP to send out the mails? If you do that you can see who the culprit is. What I do is I open the email headers and look for message ID. Then, based on the email date, I grep the appropriate log and find out the ok never mind, let's

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
On 7/14/07 12:42 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As Larry Stone mentioned, just put something in the headers and footers of every message, which tells AOL users that they will have their entire domain permanently banned from the list, if you get too many spam

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Ralf Hildebrandt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. Welcome to the wonderful world of AOL retards. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
On 7/14/07 3:53 PM, Dave Dewey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ralf Hildebrandt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. Welcome to the wonderful world of AOL retards. There is nothing in it

[Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-14 Thread Brandon Slaten
Greetings, Thanks for any time you can give this problem. I just moved our Mailman lists to a new server. Accessing the listinfo and admin pages works fine. After creating a new list mail sent to that list is delivered. However mail set to the old lists, the ones that were moved to this

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Krystal Zipfel
Remember, AOL is not the only retarded ISP out there. Working for a web hosting company, I see this happen all the time. AOL is notorious, but so is Comcast, Bellsouth, and Verizon (to name a few). but hey, if it wasn't for Spam and horrible ISP's that block everyone except themselves... think

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Larry Stone wrote: That's unfortunate. At this point, what's the point of getting them if they won't give you any useful information as to who doesn't want the list mail they requested. It's not really supposed to be usefull on a per-mail basis, rather as a way of

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
VERP doesn't work any longer for these, as of a couple months ago. They now redact ALL information that can be used to identify the user, including verp'd addresses. As of June ( the last one I received) they only removed the list name part, so you get a line like this Return-Path: [EMAIL

[Mailman-Users] Format conversion

2007-07-14 Thread Bill Suarez
Perhaps I've missed this in the doc's (but I don't think so). How can I configure Mailman to convert an HTML post into plain text? When a member post from Hotmail or Yahoo in HTML format I end up with a .html attachment and two .txt attachments (for the list header and footer) which makes it

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Christopher X. Candreva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): VERP doesn't work any longer for these, as of a couple months ago. They now redact ALL information that can be used to identify the user, including verp'd addresses. As of June ( the last one I received) they only removed the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/14/07, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Simple - yes. Effective? Depends on what you are after. By doing it this way you are not really different from AOL, are you? You punish many users just because some other are thoughtless and lazy. When I offer something, I want people to use it, not ban

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/14/07, Larry Stone wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] banned for AOL TOS notice - 10/20/05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 554 You have previously reported requested mail from here as SPAM - you are banned from this server (see http://www.stonejongleux.com/spamban.html - 10/20/05) That's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Format conversion

2007-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/14/07, Bill Suarez wrote: Perhaps I've missed this in the doc's (but I don't think so). The official List Administration Manual at http://www.list.org/mailman-admin/index.html is incomplete. It effectively stops at section 2.9 The Archiving Options Category (URL:

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/14/07, Larry Stone wrote: But it's always been clear that AOL assumes everyone outside is a spammer. The scary thing was that, when I was working there, every few months we'd get a whole new raft of VPs in the company, they'd all get sick and tired of the spam they were getting, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Format conversion

2007-07-14 Thread Bill Suarez
Thanks Brad, I'll give that a shot. Appreciate the guidance. Bill -Original Message- From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Format conversion On 7/14/07, Bill

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Dave Dewey wrote: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, maybe I'm just lucky. Is your server on the AOL whitelist ? == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 948-3162 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread David Gibbs
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: Never overestimate the cluefulness of AOL.com users. It doesn't help that AOL put the Report SPAM button right next to the Delete button. I've had a number of people report mail from my lists as spam when they thought they were simply deleting a message they had finished

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
On 7/14/07 8:26 PM, Brad Knowles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/14/07, Larry Stone wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] banned for AOL TOS notice - 10/20/05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 554 You have previously reported requested mail from here as SPAM - you are banned from this server (see