Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
At 12:02 PM +0200 5/31/2007, Robert Brenstein wrote:
Just for curiosity, I just launched HC and checked it out. Script
Editor is modeless. The search script handler has
if the script of this stack contains pattern then edit script of this
stack
repeat with curBgnd
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Regardless of how the script editor was implemented, was it modal? It's
been a while since I've used it, but I had the impression it was
modeless, so that one could leave the window open and get back to the
stack. But if it was modeless, how does the ss handler know to
If I remember correctly, this is because the HC script editor is a
self-contained external (a version 2.0 external - which has some
capabilities that the MC/Rev interface lacks). Since the script
editor in MC is a stack, it can't take advantage of this. (Darn.)
--
jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL
On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:20:55 -0400 Shari wrote:
So that means any MC solution cannot take you from script to script to
edit?
Shari,
If you really want HyperCard style ss search, try the solution I
posted 2 days ago on this list.
It's a hack but if you would not open and close stacks
I have asked several times since using MC about searching all scripts,
and never got a really good solution. I MISS the Hypercard ss
function. That was awesome! It just took you to each instance,
let you change it, then moved on to the next one.
Was HC's script editor modal? I'd thought it
Robert Brenstein wrote:
All objects are checked the same way, so apparently the script suspends
while script editor is opened and continues after it is closed.
Right, it's built into the HC engine. MC and Rev don't do that, since
their editors are just stacks. The script editor in HyperCard
Right, it's built into the HC engine. MC and Rev don't do that,
since their editors are just stacks. The script editor in HyperCard
was a dialog resource built into the application and controlled
specially by the app code.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay
So that means any MC solution cannot take
Shari wrote:
Right, it's built into the HC engine. MC and Rev don't do that, since
their editors are just stacks. The script editor in HyperCard was a
dialog resource built into the application and controlled specially by
the app code.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay
So that means any MC
One way to keep track is to just keep an eye on the titlebar of the
script editor, which will tell you where you're at. The search stack
I wrote for myself also retains the selection of the script that's
opened, so that also provides a clue. (Did I send you that one?)
I do, however, use the
Concerning stack wide search, I guess like many of us, I wrote my
own a while ago. It's sort of enhanced control browser that shows
the structure of multiple stacks of interest and their substacks at
once and can search scripts across them, even searches the script of
unplaced Bg Groups if
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Tariel Gogoberidze wrote:
1) Wilhelm Sanke wrote excellent stack SearchDocs XML 2.6.1.mc a
while ago.
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/Screenshots.htm
Unfortunately it can process only pre vs 7.x Rev documentation (in
operates on vs 2.6.1 to be precise) but it covers
On May 29, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
If Rev is a rose, compellingly colorful, MC is a lotus blossom,
infinitely flowering.
I sense a sonnet, nay... an ode to MC is on the way...;-)
I've prepared a book cover for you:
http://ezpzapps.com/Bodhidharma_sims.jpg
Some time
But why not do what a lot of us have done -- create something in Rev
exclusively. When I decided to learn Rev, I just jumped in at the
beginning and made a whole project in it. I set aside one stack that
I forbid myself to open in MC. You learn it quick that way. :)
I don't have the time to
Shari wrote:
Richard wrote:
The meta-question implied by all of this seems to be: Why switch?
More specifically, what features in the Rev IDE make it interesting,
and what could be done to the MC IDE to exceed it?
The logic was two-fold the Metacard GUI is supported by
volunteers.
It hurt all of us, and none more so than Apple (yet I doubt they
have anyone left with enough imagination to understand what it could
have been; the world is bigger than Widgets).
I thought I heard rumor recently of some new thing Apple was working
on. I remember thinking that if they came
On May 29, 2007, at 08:55:36 -0700, Richard Gaskin wrote:
1. Search (and edit) all scripts in a stack, including substacks
2. More advanced standalone saving
3. More detailed info in the Help docs
a. Often the Help Index assumes you know something already,
sometimes I want to
Stepping back to look at the big picture, the meta-question implied by
all of this seems to be: Why switch?
More specifically, what features in the Rev IDE make it interesting, and
what could be done to the MC IDE to exceed it?
My hunch is that for any compelling element in the Rev IDE we
Richard,
The logic was two-fold the Metacard GUI is supported by
volunteers. Anything supported by volunteers eventually gets very
stressed. I have worked for volunteer organizations (the Atlanta
Macintosh Users Group - I used to take the minutes of their
meetings). Our homeowner
Shari wrote:
I pondered this question and figured that maybe, the time to
contemplate a switch was NOT when I had no choice anymore.
I think that's sound, whether MC IDE goes away or not. Knowing how to
use Rev is useful, just like knowing how to drive any kind of car,
whether it's an
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Shari wrote:
I pondered this question and figured that maybe, the time to
contemplate a switch was NOT when I had no choice anymore.
I see no worries there. First there was MC, then Rev, then Galaxy, soon
M2, then who knows. Rather than no choice, the future seems
Rev doesn't change anything in your stack or your scripts, so I'm
not sure how that could happen. The SB doesn't touch your stack at
all, except to add a few custom properties that are harmless. Maybe
it's those IDE embedded stacks causing trouble? Best to remove the
ask/answer and file
On May 26, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Shari wrote:
As for the Ask/Answer issue, they were embedded because I changed
the look slightly to be more in line with my program.
I, too, changed the look of MC's ask and answer and embedded them in
my standalones. I found a general solution to this problem
What an elegant solution! Simple, elegant, I love it!
Shari
I, too, changed the look of MC's ask and answer and embedded them in
my standalones. I found a general solution to this problem that I've
been happy with for a long time:
- Rename your custom ask/answer dialogs to something line
Hi Tereza,
yes, extremely wonderful hint!
Chapeau, monsieur! :-)
What an elegant solution! Simple, elegant, I love it!
Shari
I, too, changed the look of MC's ask and answer and embedded them
in my standalones. I found a general solution to this problem that
I've been happy with for a
Shari wrote:
Long story short, I am now wondering
if it did indeed delete the right Answer etc. stacks, from my project
rather than Rev. But Rev launches, so ? Is there any way that
somewhere in the stack, Rev found a remembered path in my stack to the
MC GUI stacks, and deleted from there?
My update is finished and ready to be turned into a standalone. I
have ALWAYS used Metacard for this. But my version of Metacard
didn't have Macintel options, so I downloaded v.2.8.1 and decided to
try something different: creating the standalone in Revolution
rather than Metacard. Call it
Shari wrote:
First thing I notice is... I must open the stack to create the
standalone. Eeeech. The last thing I do before turning into a
standalone is run a series of resettings then quit. Revolution requires
the stack to be open, which resets all the settings.
Do all your custom setup,
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