I am fairly new to birding and I am finding this debate extremely
educational. I definitely appreciate the answers to questions being posted
to all to help me learn more. The information many of you post is common
knowledge for you, but much of it is new to me. I also hope the experienced
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*Minnesota Statewide
*November 4, 2011
*MNST.04
-Birds mentioned
Tundra Swan
Surf Scoter
White-winged Scoter
Black Scoter
Long-tailed Duck
Sandhill Crane
Tropical Kingbird
Scissor-tailed Flycatcher
Scott's Oriole
Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch
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*Minnesota
*Duluth/North Shore
*November 4, 2011
*MNDU.04
-Birds mentioned
Surf Scoter
White-winged Scoter
Black Scoter
Long-tailed Duck
Thayer's Gull
Glaucous Gull
Great Black-backed Gull
American Three-toed Woodpecker
Black-backed Woodpecker
Blue-headed Vireo
Bohemian Waxwing
White-winged Scoter, Mille Lacs Lake, southwest side, pulloff across from
Hillcrest house.
Al Schirmacher
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When the major push of birds have gone through, and the straggling rares are
being reported, it seems we come up with controversial subjects to fill in
the gaps on the M.O.U.. Its been really interesting to read everyones
approach to ethics and reporting, and I have gleaned much from all. I
The risk of baiting owls are always weighed
against the rewards. There are so many negatives to owl baiting which include
endangering the birds, unfit or diseased food and that it seems obvious to me
that it's not worth the risk.
The use of live mice
increases the chances for this illusion
Hello,
It has been extremely interesting reading the debate going on these last few
days. I just wanted to pipe in and say that I am a 'newbie'. I lurked for a
year before joining and contributing. I am also a nature photographer and I
take pictures of all things in nature, not just birds. I
I guess this is one of those things that each individual will have to
wrestle with. One of the problems I see with habituating owls is that they
than become vulnerable. I'm sure everyone has seen road signs riddled with
buckshot- the result of boredom and a gun I imagine. So imagine now a
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To: Michael Hendrickson mlhendrick...@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:56:07 PM
Subject: Re: [mou-net] posting debate
Mike - I did read what you posted. I also read everyone's responses and opinion
and was responding to
Lots of American tree sparrows around the refuge today. Several northern
shrikes are being seen along county roads in the area. At the headquarters
feeder there have been purple finches, American goldfinches, a fox sparrow and
a rusty blackbird, along with the normal winter feeder birds.
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:01 -0500, Fr. Paul Kammen wrote:
I realize that
baiting a bird is a debatable topic, but my opinion on that is if it is such
a bad
thing, or harmful to an owl, wouldn't the DNR make a law or regulation that
says you can't do this?
Surely you understand that there
Today while taking my son to school, I saw 4 Rusty Blackbirds sitting at the
top of an almost leafless poplar or aspen tree.
Although the look was quick, I am calling them Rusty's because of their
large size (as large as or larger than a robin), their plumpness, their lack
of long tail --
I visited Hawk Ridge for about two hours this morning, and did not see any
raptors early in the day (between 9am and 11am). Raptor migration tends
to be more focused in late morning and the early/mid afternoon hours as the
raptor migration comes to a close in late November. There were some fun
Mike - When I say post your owl sightings - that includes the whole nine
yards - type of owl, time of day, exact location, the color of your shoes or
whatever other information the poster feels is relevant. I personally find just
posting the owl seen and not the exact location a disappointment
Some of the formating in the personal email I received was lost. So I am
reposting.
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Mike - When I say post your owl
Thank you Sarah. It is sad to see this venue and valuable sharing disintegrate
into folks just needing to be right.
For the record, you are all right. Everyone of you. Every opinion is valid.
Sharing it is appreciated and valued. If we could just cut it a little shorter,
we could bypass the
They'll over-winter here, if they can find open water, usually in
springs, and food sources like crab-apple, wild grape, buckthorn
berries, hackberries, etc. Huge flocks of them spend the winter along
the Mississippi and Minnesota River bottoms. They're a regular winter
fixture at Crosby park in
i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people in
here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from sharing exact
owl locations and some took that requst and think iam asking not to share all
bird sightings,locations and information. lol did i say all
How do we find out about the sax zim birding festival? etc etc
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Michael Hendrickson mlhendrick...@yahoo.com
wrote:
i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people
in here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from
Mike,
from your initial posting myself and I suspect many others saw where
this would go, I think you probably knew as well. While I respect your
opinion, and may agree or disagree with you, this is not an opinion forum,
a forum for lecturing or a place to argue about anything really. I enjoy
With regard to the recent discussion on posting the locations of winter owls
(and all it has morphed into), the MOU Committee given the task of creating and
maintaining this Listservice now insists that this particular thread be moved
to private back channels.
Anthony Hertzel
MOU ECC member
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:35:49 -0700, Michael Hendrickson
mlhendrick...@yahoo.com wrote:
i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people in
here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from sharing exact
owl locations and some took that requst and think
I'm considering going to Bass Ponds tomorrow, and saw recent posts from last
weekend, I believe a long billed dowitcher was seen down there and Wilson's
Snipe. Just curious if anyone has seen them more recently or if someone might
know if they are gone by now.
Thanks,
Fr. Paul
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Whatever my part in this divergence from whatever folks think this listserv is
about, I've learned a great deal over the years from Michael and others, and
re-evaluated my own practices in observing birds. I think that some of what
I've done in seeking out bird observations over the years has
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