Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-23 Thread Jonathan Lewis
The original comment was about PQ slaves reading data blocks - not PX slaves running parallel update/inserts. When PX slaves do parallel inserts the processing is usually split to avoid contention - e.g. each slaves gets one partition of a partitioned object; or each slave gets a new extent abo

Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-23 Thread A. Bardeen
Jonathan, OK, what am I missing? All of the PX sessions have to access the segment header in order to get blocks off the free lists so can't that result in buffer busy waits on the segment header unless it was created with more than one free list group? -- Anita --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Scott
Raja, You will only have freelist contention on conventional insert operations only. Insert operations from direct loads won't cause freelist contention because of the way direct inserts are done. You can check for freelist contention by checking V$SESSION_WAIT and look for the Event 'Buffer Busy

Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Jared . Still
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Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread arunc
- Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:48 AM > On Tuesday 21 August 2001 08:21, Johnson Poovathummoottil wrote: > > Bufer busy waits can also be caused by parallel query > > servers trying to read the same bu

RE: Freelist Contention - PQ slaves

2001-08-21 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
> > From: Johnson Poovathummoottil > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:21 > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject:RE: Freelist Contention > > > > Bufer busy waits can also be caused by parallel >

Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Not only that, PX slaves do direct reads anyway, bypassing the buffer cache. It is possible, though, that the flush that has to take place before the PX scan can read back is sufficient to cause other processes to wait for write complete waits, and I guess that you could also get extra rbs hea

RE: Freelist Contention - PQ slaves

2001-08-21 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Another thing that comes to mind is incorrectly tuned DBWR, which cannot keep up. > -Original Message- > From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 2:31 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Freelist Content

Re: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Jared Still
On Tuesday 21 August 2001 08:21, Johnson Poovathummoottil wrote: > Bufer busy waits can also be caused by parallel query > servers trying to read the same buffer block at the > same time. Just off the top of my head, and without giving it a lot of thought, this doesn't sound right. PQS divvy up

Re: RE: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Jon Walthour
2 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Freelist Contention > > Bufer busy waits can also be caused by parallel query > servers trying to read the same buffer block at the > same time. So does it always indicate a freelist > pr

RE: Freelist Contention - PQ slaves

2001-08-21 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Freelist Contention - PQ slaves I thought that parallel query slaves were smart enough to divide up the work between them so there was no overlap?  What am I missing?  Can you elaborate? -Original Message- From:   Johnson Poovathummoottil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

RE: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Gogala, Mladen
You have to learn to listen to your database, grasshoppa'. A good alternative to the Buddhist and kung fu techniques is the v$waitstat table. If you see accumulating time for 'extent map' or 'free list', then you know that you have to rebuild the table with more free lists. To see the actual se

RE: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
Bufer busy waits can also be caused by parallel query servers trying to read the same buffer block at the same time. So does it always indicate a freelist problem? . --- Jon Walthour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raja: > > You will know you have freelist contention if you > have a significant > bu

RE: Freelist Contention

2001-08-21 Thread Jon Walthour
Raja: You will know you have freelist contention if you have a significant buffer busy waits ratio (>5%). Jon Walthour -Original Message- Luthra Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello folks, How do I come to know that there is a conten