Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear list: I thought the point of pragmaticism was simply to make meanings clear. “Now there are *three grades of clearness in our apprehensions of the meanings* of words. The first consists in the connexion of the word with familiar experience… The second grade consists in the abstract

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Stephen C. Rose
This from Robert B. Talisse at http://www.nordprag.org/nsp/1/Talisse.pdf may be germane. Hence the Peircean can offer what the Deweyan cannot, namely, a substantive conception of democracy that is consistent with a due appreciation of the reasonable pluralism of comprehensive moral ideals. But tha

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Gary Richmond
Stefan, Edwina, Mike, List, While I think that there is a most interesting and even important discussion adumbrated in these recent exchanges (I too would tend to disagree with Edwina's views, Stefan, as she wrote that she thought I might when she kindly sent me the draft of her slide presentation

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Stefan - I am not making 'big claims on the agora'. I posted my concerns on a specific and limited list, the Peirce List, about a proposed discussion topic on democracy as outlined by Dewey and Peirce. My concerns about Dewey were that his outline of a political system separated it completely

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Mike Bergman
List, I was imprecise in my use of the qualifier "all" in my statement, "In the end, it is all wrong." The correct qualifier that I meant to say is "partially". And, by "partially" I also do not mean to imply that I personally know or believe what port

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Stefan - again, your CHOICE of assuming I have no proof, because I refuse to start up a discussion of these issues on a site devoted to Peirce, is just your own illogical and non-empirical opinion. That's right - I provided the conclusions of these theories - again, because this site is not for

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread Edwina Taborsky
That's right, Stefan! It's a Peirce list - and I, and you, have no right to take it over for a discussion that has absolutely nothing to do with Peirce. I suggested going off-line but you, yourself, chose to keep it online and in addition, to insult and sneer at me. That was your choice. Edwina

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce and Democracy

2016-11-20 Thread sb
Mike, Peirce would't approve that "last snide tone" if i would bar the road of inquiry. I don't do that. I just want somebody who makes big claims about how the social world works to back up her claims empirically. To discuss such complex things At least a clear theoretical outline of hypothe