Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-25 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > CG: I’d say it’s quite a bit earlier than that, although again I think a lot > depends upon what we mean by the terms. > > Fisch argued, convincingly I think, that Peirce did not accept the reality of >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-25 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote: > > Aren't Plato's Forms 'real' - even when NOT embedded within matter/concepts? Depends. Are numbers real even when not embedded within matter/concepts? After all there are numbers that have never been formally thought

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
gt; *From:* Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> > *To:* Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> > *Cc:* Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu> > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 7:50 PM > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism > > Edwina, List: > > ET

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
m:* Clark Goble <cl...@lextek.com> > *To:* Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@LIST.IUPUI.EDU> > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 7:05 PM > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism > > On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > &

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Edwina Taborsky
. Edwina - Original Message - From: Jon Alan Schmidt To: Edwina Taborsky Cc: Peirce-L Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism Edwina, List: ET: [Not within Secondness, Jon, but within a triadic Sign]. I did

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
..@lextek.com> > *Cc:* Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu> > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 6:28 PM > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism > > Clark, List: > > CG: It seems to me Peirce is a Platonist in several senses. First he > admits generals int

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Edwina Taborsky
ntal principles of the world. But have nothing to do with the pre-Matter/Mind state-of-indeterminacy. And Firstness cannot be defined as 'indeterminacy'. Edwina - Original Message - From: Clark Goble To: Peirce-L Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [PEI

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > Edwina and I have gone back and forth on this on multiple occasions. My > understanding--which she will presumably correct if I am mistaken--is that > she denies that Peirce held Firstness (possibilities,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Edwina Taborsky
-L Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism Clark, List: CG: It seems to me Peirce is a Platonist in several senses. First he admits generals into his ontology as real. Thus he was on the platonic side of the nominalist debates

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Clark, List: CG: It seems to me Peirce is a Platonist in several senses. First he admits generals into his ontology as real. Thus he was on the platonic side of the nominalist debates of the medieval era and modern era. Edwina and I have gone back and forth on this on multiple occasions. My

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's neoPlatonism

2016-10-24 Thread Clark Goble
I’ve changed the subject line to better reflect the theme. > On Oct 24, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Edwina Taborsky > wrote: > > As for Peirce's Platonism -[ which is