[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread martin lefebvre
Title: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Pei Joe, list, I certainly agree with you. Indeed Peirce even writes: "It is not to be supposed that the first three methods of settling opinion present no advantage whatever ovr the scientific method. On the contrary each has some pe

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Gary says: "The social principle is rooted in logic, and logic is rooted in the social principle. If that ain't circular, what is?" (See below for context) REPLY: Well, Gary, it looks like some fancy footwork with the term "is rooted in" might have to be resorted to if we are to save Peirce on

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Jim W. says: "Pyrryo, of course, claimed that 'suspension' yields peace of mind." REPLY: Yes, but then again Pyrrho wasn'y supposed to be making any assertions at all, being the sort of sceptic he purported to be!   But, yes, sure,   This or something like this has always seemed to me to be the

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Title: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Pei Martin -- and Bill: Martin, I find what you are saying both plausible and resulting in a gemerally consistent view.  Something can be done, too, to put a more positive face on the first two methods, which need not be construed  as n

[peirce-l] Cheers to All

2006-09-25 Thread Silvia Redente
Hi,   I'm Silvia Redente, and I'm writing a thesis for my specialistic degree about Peirce and Saussure. My dissertation is about the semiotic approach to Peirce' philosophical tendency in symbolic thought. In accordance with Saussure' semiology, I'm going to show the way in which the two authors

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Bill, Kirsti, et al: In my earlier message I mischaracterized the method he describes in  MS 165.  And of course what later becomes the fourth method or method of reason is only alluded to rather than described except in the last paragraph of this MS where he talks about "the Children of This Wor

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread gnusystems
Joe, thanks for that pointer to Jeff Kasser's paper; it clears up many of the questions i've had lately about what Peirce meant by "psychologism" (and "psychology"). However i'm inclined to question Jeff's emphasis (in the middle of the paper) on the circularity of "psychologistic" approaches t

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread jwillgoose
Joe and list, It is difficult to tell exactly what those two psychological laws are from the text. (preceding the quote below) It is also difficult to frame them universally. Either we talk of all men at all times or some men at all times or all men at some time or another. I think we could talk

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread martin lefebvre
Title: [peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Pei Joe, Kristi, list, At the risk of offering a post hoc, ergo propter hoc argument, I'll try looking at the issue from the prespective of Peirce's more mature views. I consider the "Fixation" essay to be organized around a sort of

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Bill, Kirsti, and list generally: Let's go back to a short MS from 1869-70 (available  on-line, from  Vol 2 of the  Writings), which is the earliest MS I am aware of -- but not necessarily the earliest one there is -- in which we find Peirce explicitly approaching  logic, in  what is clearly a pro

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Bill Bailey
Kristi, Joe, list:   The human is a social animal, born into a social group which typically has a full array of habits, customs in place.  That strikes me as a given.  "We've always done it that way, and that's the way it will be done" seems to me what Peirce is talking about as tenacity prop

[peirce-l] Re: What "fundamenal psychological laws" is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Kirsti Määttänen
Dear Joe, Thanks for your response and the quote. On second thoughts, informed with the quote you provided, some kind of evolution seems to be involved. But, being evolution of a conception, it must be of logical nature. I can't see how it could hold as a hypothesis of evolution of either individu