Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
I strongly think so too, but i spying on him. there is something fishy there.. Mine Michael Perelman wrote: > I think that Gould is wrong. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I know that the letter was from Aveling.What about Gould's claim that > > there was a correpondence between Marx and Dar

Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Rod Hay
It has been established long ago that Marx did not offer to dedicate Capital to Darwin. Check Louis Feuer's article in the Journal of the History of Ideas, (some time in the 1970s). Rod Hay Carrol Cox wrote: > Ricardo Duchesne wrote: > > > > As one of the most boring books ever written, one whi

Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Michael Perelman
I think that Gould is wrong. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know that the letter was from Aveling.What about Gould's claim that > there was a correpondence between Marx and Darwin? Is this another > correpondence? or is Gould making up? > > Mine > > >Margaret Fay wrote about the letter to Darwin.

Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread md7148
I know that the letter was from Aveling.What about Gould's claim that there was a correpondence between Marx and Darwin? Is this another correpondence? or is Gould making up? Mine >Margaret Fay wrote about the letter to Darwin. It was from Aveling, not >Marx. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You

Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Margaret Fay wrote about the letter to Darwin. It was from Aveling, not Marx. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You are misreading the point. The point was not about Marxists' sympathy > with Darwin's rejection of the offer. Of course, it was a nice behavior > that Darwin did not want to popularize hi

Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread md7148
You are misreading the point. The point was not about Marxists' sympathy with Darwin's rejection of the offer. Of course, it was a nice behavior that Darwin did not want to popularize himself, so let's give credit to him. However, this was not simply an ethical concern or political correctness fo

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:22 AM 5/8/00 -0700, you wrote: >>Has anyone else here read R.P. Wolff's lovely litearry appreciation of >>Capital, Moneybags Should be So Lucky? > >Yes... > >If Wolff is correct in his assessment of what Marx is trying to do in >chapter 1, volume 1, then all I can say is that Marx failed--

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Brad De Long
>Has anyone else here read R.P. Wolff's lovely litearry appreciation >of Capital, Moneybags Should be So Lucky? Yes... If Wolff is correct in his assessment of what Marx is trying to do in chapter 1, volume 1, then all I can say is that Marx failed--that Wolff is perhaps the first and only re

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread JKSCHW
Has anyone else here read R.P. Wolff's lovely litearry appreciation of Capital, Moneybags Should be So Lucky? Also, SS Prawer has a nice book on Karl Marx and World Literature, which is an old-fashioned (i.e. pre-Theory) lit critter's approach to Cpitala nd a lot more. As someone who has worked

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >At 09:57 AM 5/8/00 -0500, you wrote: >> > > As one of the most boring books ever written, one which 99% of >>> Marxist do not have the patience or even temper to read, should we >>> not but sympathize with poor Darwin's rejection of this offer? > >since when do we let mer

Re: Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:57 AM 5/8/00 -0500, you wrote: > > > As one of the most boring books ever written, one which 99% of > > Marxist do not have the patience or even temper to read, should we > > not but sympathize with poor Darwin's rejection of this offer? since when do we let mere boredom stand in our way

Re: Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Carrol Cox
Ricardo Duchesne wrote: > > As one of the most boring books ever written, one which 99% of > Marxist do not have the patience or even temper to read, should we > not but sympathize with poor Darwin's rejection of this offer? I read *Capital* (Vol.I) several years before I became involved in

Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-08 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
> Dear Sir, - I thank you for your friendly letter and the enclosure. The > publication of your observations on my writings, in whatever form they may > appear, really does not need any consent on my part, and it would be > ridiculous for me to grant my permission for something which does not

Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-05 Thread md7148
I definetly agree.I think we should get the best out of Darwin to see what is potential for Marxism. Developing a materialist conception of nature is necessary for understanding the "historicity" of human nature. While doing that, however, Marxists should be careful not to assimilate Marx to Darw

Re: Re: Darwin's dilemma (fwd)

2000-05-05 Thread Louis Proyect
While John Bellamy Foster acknowledges Darwin's concessions to social Darwinism, the main stress is on the importance of developing a materialist view of nature in defiance of the essentialist and teleological consensus of the mid 1800s. That being said, I agree strongly with Robert Young that soc