Re: [PEN-L] slime mold socialism

I agree we should be talking about communism as well as socialism. Where the repressive powers of the state to stop street demonstrations are increasingly weak (in practice) and where the market network is quite sophisticated, values other than that of commodity exchange value can be incorporated i

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Tom Walker wrote: Aren’t analysis and evidence a continuation of allegory and emblem with other means? Mohammad MAljoo _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/di

Re: [PEN-L] Why the Anti-War Movement Must Confront Bipartisan Support for the Twin Occupations

I seem to remember activists telling Martin Luther King not to branch out into peace activities, lest he cut his support for civil rights. Plus ça change,... At 23:13 10/03/05, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Among anti-war coalitions and organizations, there have always been voices that said that activi

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Off the top of my head: Charles Bean's JEL article of a few years ago refuted the idea that making it hard to fire workers increased unemployment. Ormond's book mentions that Europe's work rules have been around for fifty years, and during most of that time their growth rate exceeded that of th

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

The German employment situation is complicated by the fact of political reunification after 1989, which, in economic terms, was a hostile takeover of one economy (GDR) by another (FRG). Within about three years of the opening of the Berlin wall, about 40% of the workers in East Germany were laid of

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Shades of Deirdre. At 11:38 11/03/05, you wrote: Tom Walker wrote: Aren't analysis and evidence a continuation of allegory and emblem with other means? Mohammad MAljoo _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http

[PEN-L] Edumacated workers and the US labor market

[This throws a bit of a kludge into Bill Gates panglossian strategy for overcoming the shortcomings of US education] http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-jobless11mar11,0,1675228.story THE NATION Long-Term Jobless Find a Degree Just Isn't Working By Nicholas Riccardi Times Staff Writer March 1

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

In raw material producing economies like oil rent based economies.. economic rent arising from the swing influences growth with little impact on job creation.   Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

Re: [PEN-L] Edumacated workers and the US labor market

reforming education seems a good idea anyway. First get rid of "no child left behind..." Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine From: PEN-L list on behalf of Eubulides [This throws a bit of a kludge into Bill Gates panglossian strategy for

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

I hate to sound like J-P Sartre, who insisted on following "consciousness" with "of" all the time, but one key question is what kind of "growth" are we talking about? "growth" of _what_? The orthodox economics & business view is that "growth" is of real GDP, which is Good. In that case, "growth"

Re: [PEN-L] slime mold socialism

For a largely decentralized vision of "socialism" -- as opposed to the "distant utopia" of communism -- I recommend Charlie Andrews' "labor republic" in his FROM CAPITALISM TO EQUALITY. It's not market socialism (though some might quibble about definitions). Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

[PEN-L] Debate over immediate withdrawal

Published on Thursday, March 10, 2005 by CommonDreams.org MoveOn.org: Making Peace With the War in Iraq by Norman Solomon Sadly, it has come to this. Two years after the invasion of Iraq, the online powerhouse MoveOn.org -- which built most of its member base with a strong antiwar message -- is n

Re: [PEN-L] Debate over immediate withdrawal

From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Published on Thursday, March 10, 2005 by CommonDreams.org MoveOn.org: Making Peace With the War in Iraq by Norman Solomon Sadly, it has come to this. Two years after the invasion of Iraq, the online powerhouse MoveOn.org -- which built most of its member bas

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Robert Scott Gassler wrote: > Shades of Deirdre. Yes, and I've been saying this since Deirdre was Don and since before I ever heard of her. Mohammad MAljoo > >Aren't analysis and evidence a continuation of > allegory and emblem with > >other means? They are indeed a continuation. Whether or no

[PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

What who are you advising on a position to take ? The indigenous folks Jim Craven was advising ? If so , seems best advice is stay out of it, as Jim said. "Taiwan" is not really claiming to have derived from some separate kinbased, hunting and gathering/horticultural society than "China" as the

[PEN-L] US Social fascism: Bankruptcy law 2005

Lets say under this new social fascist law one gets on the track they have that you have to pay $100 / month for the rest of your life ( I gotta lawfact check that )  What happens if you miss a payment ?  They take more of your $$$ ?  You don't have any money .   Next social fascist bill: r

[PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

At dinner this evening a friend of mine made the claim that the easier it is to fire workers, the better the growth rate of the economy --- "That's Germany's problem right now", he said, perhaps with good reason. Is there any empirical support or refutation of this? Bill ^^ CB: Somebody sho

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

To me, I see no reason to change national boundaries (e.g., merging China and Taiwan) unless there are really good reasons. Preferably, whether these reasons are good or not is a decision to be made by the people of the two countries involved, in a democratic way. This kind of decision can't be mad

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Right on. At 16:12 11/03/05, you wrote: Robert Scott Gassler wrote: > Shades of Deirdre. Yes, and I've been saying this since Deirdre was Don and since before I ever heard of her. Mohammad MAljoo > >Aren't analysis and evidence a continuation of > allegory and emblem with > >other means? They are i

[PEN-L] Good Gödel, Batman!

Does Gödel Matter? The romantic's favorite mathematician didn't prove what you think he did. By Jordan Ellenberg the Washington Post's SLATE/Posted Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 4:27 AM PT The reticent and relentlessly abstract logician Kurt Gödel might seem an unlikely candidate for popular app

[PEN-L] trying again: wave of democracy

This didn't come out with good margins at all, so I'm trying again. It is not democracy that's on the march in the Middle East Managed elections are the latest device to prop up pro-western regimes Seumas Milne Thursday March 10, 2005 The Guardian For weeks a western chorus has been celebrating

Re: [PEN-L] The Good Empire

If Ward C. is to be kicked out, we should kick Niall Ferguson out of academia too. Among others. Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ > -Original Message- > From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max B. > Sawicky > Sent: Wednesday, Ma

Re: [PEN-L] The Good Empire

From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If Ward C. is to be kicked out, we should kick Niall Ferguson out of academia too. Among others. I don't know what Ferguson's doing in academia to begin with. The British army, according to its website, "is currently deployed in over 80 countries around th

Re: [PEN-L] US Social fascism: Bankruptcy law 2005

Agreed. . . In Michigan, Debbie Stabenow voted with Bush and the Republicans to make bankruptcy much more difficult for the 1.5 million citizens pushed there every year. The credit card lobby is besides itself with glee. Carl Levin voted against Bush, by the way. Read, "Your Money or Your Life,"

[PEN-L] "Schizo"

After Mustafa, aka "Schizo," is expelled from his Kazakhstan high school for fighting, his mother takes him to the local doctor for an examination who decides that the fifteen year old is suffering from "deviations" and prescribes unidentified medication that the boy takes in his characteristic

[PEN-L] slime mold socialism

"Devine, James" I was somewhat kidding, of course. More importantly, in standard Marxian terminology it's not "socialism" that would be organized like a slime mold, but "communism" (the second stage of socialism, in which the distinction between the state and civil society fades and goes away, wi

[PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

WHEN LIBERALS LIE DOWN WITH WOLVES http://www.artsjournal.com/herman/ So I was reading Eric Alterman's blog item "Wolfowitz on the record," (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7127721/#050308) about a cocktail party Tina Brown threw in Washington the other night, and I kept getting the creepiest feeling.

Re: [PEN-L] US Social fascism: Bankruptcy law 2005

Not only that, but the new law encourages a fall in consumer spending, which may pop the bubble economy.   BTW, let’s avoid the word “fascist” if possible. It’s extremely over-used, depreciating its meaning. (It’s like using the word “rape” to refer to seduction.)  I liked the term that K

[PEN-L] Visiting Assistant Job opening at Eastern Washington Univ.

Hi to all, I sent out this announcement back in February. I just found out that we will also be hiring for a visiting assistant professor position as well. The application pool is still open, so anyone who was not interested in the lecturer position, but might be interested in the VAP, you should

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Speaking of "lying down with wolves," what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Speaking of "lying down with wolves," what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ I don't know about German, but "Alter" means old in Yiddish. My parents used to refer to an elderly pers

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

I know an old comedian who calls himself an "alter kacker." Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ >>Speaking of "lying down with wolves," what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean?<< > I don't know about German, but

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Why does it matter so much what "liberals" say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

Jim Devine writes: To me, I see no reason to change national boundaries (e.g., merging China and Taiwan) unless there are really good reasons. The thing is that almost all Chinese living on the mainland (and almost half in Taiwan?) don't see China/Taiwan as separate national boundaries. They belie

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] we

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

"Devine, James" wrote: > > Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's > getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're > getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as > leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? I'm no

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

I wrote: >> Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors?<< Carrol: > I'm not sure h

Re: [PEN-L] Good Gödel, Batman!

this whole piece is rather confusing and muddled. first the subtitle says that godel didn't prove what you think he did. however, in the text below, the reviewer seems to agree that most people do not even know who godel is. no big deal. what i find unconvincing is the idea that his result is no bi

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

"Devine, James" wrote: > > > I think that's the right attitude. Whether someone is a "liberal" is of > secondary or tertiary or even lowerary importance. Labels are much less > important than concrete issues of politics. I believe Marx had something along that line to say in the Critique of the Go

[PEN-L] BAY AREA PORTS SHUT DOWN TO COMMERCIAL SHIPPING

BAY AREA PORTS SHUT DOWN TO COMMERCIAL SHIPPING - NO CARGO WILL MOVE ON MARCH 19TH !!! Longshore and Warehouse Union Local 10 announced on March 9 that it will honor the International Day of Protest Against the U.S. War and Occupation of Iraq by not working any cargo in San Francisco Bay Are

[PEN-L] Taiwan vs. PRC

[was: RE: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan] I wrote: >>To me, I see no reason to change national boundaries (e.g., merging China and Taiwan) unless there are really good reasons.<< Thomas Lepeardo writes:>The thing is that almost all Chinese living on the mainland (and almost half in Taiwan?) don't

Re: [PEN-L] Taiwan vs. PRC

Jim Devine writes: To historical materialists, what is most important is not people's perceptions, self-perceptions, and ideals (China & Taiwan as unified) as much as the _de facto_ military, economic, and social situation, which is that C and T are distinct. The only ways that they could be unifie

[PEN-L] overcapacity again

I just found this sorting through some notes. John R. Bunting. 1964. The Hidden Face of Free Enterprise: The Strange Economics of the American Businessman (NY: McGraw Hill). He was a vice president of the Philadelphia branch of the Federal Reserve Bank. 104: A Philadelphia banker in 1962 said to

[PEN-L] Hunting Down "Computer Pirates" and "Reputation Terrorists"

"Hunting Down 'Computer Pirates' and 'Reputation Terrorists'": . -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: * Greens for Nader: * Bring Them Home Now!