On Wednesday 14 October 2009 20:29:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On October 14, 2009, David Baron wrote:
> > What is an activity in your mind? This to me and I think many others is a
> > point of much confusion.
>
> hate to be the grinch here, but if the concepts being discussed are not
> clear to y
On October 14, 2009 09:15:34 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On October 14, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > cc-ing kwin list. I said it before, I say it again: we need a workspace
> > mailinglist
>
> it would be useful; the only challenge is knowing when to post here
> (because it's only about plasma or
On October 14, 2009, David Baron wrote:
> What is an activity in your mind? This to me and I think many others is a
> point of much confusion.
hate to be the grinch here, but if the concepts being discussed are not clear
to you at this point, then this isn't a discussion you need to be a part of.
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 17:27:58 Chani wrote:
> On October 14, 2009 06:47:35 David Baron wrote:
> > I have been reading or glancing this thread for a while (many longer
> > posts are unreadable because of all the variations of included text being
> > answered).
> >
> > If we are not talking ab
On October 14, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> cc-ing kwin list. I said it before, I say it again: we need a workspace
> mailinglist
it would be useful; the only challenge is knowing when to post here (because
it's only about plasma or kwin) or on the workspace list if we keep plasma-
devel@ and kw
On October 14, 2009 06:47:35 David Baron wrote:
> I have been reading or glancing this thread for a while (many longer posts
> are unreadable because of all the variations of included text being
> answered).
>
> If we are not talking about a one-to-one desktop-activity relationship
> which migh
On October 14, 2009 08:17:49 Chani wrote:
> On October 13, 2009 21:34:11 Matthew Dawson wrote:
> > Thinking about the "a-containment-per-virtual-desktop mode", I feel like
> > I use that feature as a substitute for the missing ability of having
> > nepomuk tied activities. I'd think once you have
On October 13, 2009 21:34:11 Matthew Dawson wrote:
>
> Thinking about the "a-containment-per-virtual-desktop mode", I feel like I
> use that feature as a substitute for the missing ability of having nepomuk
> tied activities. I'd think once you have activities proper this feature
> will seem
I have been reading or glancing this thread for a while (many longer posts are
unreadable because of all the variations of included text being answered).
If we are not talking about a one-to-one desktop-activity relationship which
might be the most straightforward to understand, in other words a
cc-ing kwin list. I said it before, I say it again: we need a workspace
mailinglist
Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 22:08:37 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 20:19:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > > slightly off-topic: what would you t
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 13:09:26 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On October 12, 2009, Chani wrote:
> > > * in a-containment-per-virtual-desktop mode (which i'm starting to feel
> > > small amounts of regret over offering ... but maybe i'm just being
> > > pessimistic :) the "Choose Activities" would b
>
> could the kwin devs consider make it a design guideline to not include
> panels in such effects but instead leave them untransformed? it just
> looks/feels so much more ... nicer.
>
> the only draw back would be if we ever make panels per-desktop. but then i
> guess the heuristic could be
On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 20:19:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > > > both that and modifying kwin to gve it all the necessary atoms to
> > > > activate all the needed effects :)
> > >
> > > Just give us a li
Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 20:19:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > > both that and modifying kwin to gve it all the necessary atoms to
> > > activate all the needed effects :)
> >
> > Just give us a list which effects should be activated by a plasmoid and
On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > both that and modifying kwin to gve it all the necessary atoms to
> > activate all the needed effects :)
>
> Just give us a list which effects should be activated by a plasmoid and we
> can add the atoms (which is everything except generic :-P)
>
>
On October 13, 2009 10:41:52 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>
> Instead of using atoms we could also extend the dbus interface to have a
> really generic interface. Don't know if that's a good idea...
>
oh. I was assuming kwin effects could already be triggered by dbus...
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Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 19:31:45 schrieb Marco Martin:
> > > a generic "trigger kwin effect" plasmoid should almost be a Junior Job
> > > :)
> >
> > yeah :)
>
> both that and modifying kwin to gve it all the necessary atoms to activate
> all the needed effects :)
Just give us a list which eff
On Tuesday 13 October 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On October 12, 2009, Chani wrote:
> > > * a "hidden windows" button could be shown in the tasks widget when
> > > there are hidden-by-activity-change windows around; switching to one of
> > > those windows would switch the activity as well?
> >
>
On October 12, 2009, Chani wrote:
> > * a "hidden windows" button could be shown in the tasks widget when there
> > are hidden-by-activity-change windows around; switching to one of those
> > windows would switch the activity as well?
>
> I'm not sure. we don't do that for desktops. but because
On Tuesday 13 October 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On October 13, 2009, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
> > similar for activities - have an option that says 'Associate new windows
> > with the current activity', which, when active, automatically associates
> > all windows opened with the activity in which
On October 13, 2009, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
> similar for activities - have an option that says 'Associate new windows
> with the current activity', which, when active, automatically associates
> all windows opened with the activity in which it is opened?
yes, that should be quite possible.
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On October 13, 2009, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote:
> Well, if we associate windows with a certain activity, I think we're kind
> of going to the virtual desktop idea. As I said earlier, this whole
> virtual desktop + activity concept seems to confuse people (even more when
the problem is that virtu
On Tuesday 13 October 2009, Chani wrote:
> > > > * a "New Activity" tab would appear Active and Stored and would allow
> > > > you to create a new activity, including picking what kind of activity
> > > > and optionally what other activity you would like to clone
> > >
> > > interesting. I ended up
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
>
> * associating a Window with an Activity could happen in one of two places:
>> a
>> new button in the window title bar (would mean some adjustment to kwin)
>> that
>> would list activities from nepomuk. the other place would be the context
> * associating a Window with an Activity could happen in one of two places:
> a
> new button in the window title bar (would mean some adjustment to kwin)
> that
> would list activities from nepomuk. the other place would be the context
> menu
> of items in the tasks widget
>
>
Hmm, I think it's hi
> >
> > > * a "New Activity" tab would appear Active and Stored and would allow
> > > you to create a new activity, including picking what kind of activity
> > > and optionally what other activity you would like to clone
> >
> > interesting. I ended up going with the "don't force any decisions, ju
> > > perhaps even in the pager itself, an extra button that disappears on
> > > desktop effects off or if there is not the proper atom set (i.e.
> > > compiz)
> >
> > hmm. where in the pager? :)
>
> bah, just a button in an horizontal layout with the current pager?
then you'd have to change it
On Monday 12 October 2009, Chani wrote:
> > > * in the same panel controller window that we now show the Add Widgets
> > > interface, we could show a Choose Activity interface. it would share a
> > > lot of presentation code with Add Widgets for consistency.
> >
> > so just a list of thumbnails?
>
On Monday 12 October 2009, Chani wrote:
> > so what's wrong with the overview thing in gnome-shell? in one word: it's
> > modal.
>
> now that I think about it, that's part of what was wrong with the zui too.
>
> > applications would get little dummy representations of themselves drawn
> > in litt
> >
> > * in the same panel controller window that we now show the Add Widgets
> > interface, we could show a Choose Activity interface. it would share a
> > lot of presentation code with Add Widgets for consistency.
>
> so just a list of thumbnails?
could be. since it's not modal, if you wanted
>
> Maybe not exactly related to this thread, but still something I'd like to
> mention-
> The concept of virtual desktops and activities being separate is something
> I've seen beginners feel rather confusing. Seeing the word "desktop", it
> gives the impression of desktop=wallpaper+applets and
> so what's wrong with the overview thing in gnome-shell? in one word: it's
> modal.
now that I think about it, that's part of what was wrong with the zui too.
>
> applications would get little dummy representations of themselves drawn in
> little boxes. i kept thinking "this is really just ano
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all ...
>
> so i've been piddling away at code-level design work for the activities
> overview.
>
> and i kept finding myself getting frustrated by it.
>
> the ideas are sound (mapping windows to activities, a simple activity
> switcher...) a
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all ...
>
> so i've been piddling away at code-level design work for the activities
> overview.
>
> and i kept finding myself getting frustrated by it.
>
> the ideas are sound (mapping windows to activities, a simple activity
> switcher
hi all ...
so i've been piddling away at code-level design work for the activities
overview.
and i kept finding myself getting frustrated by it.
the ideas are sound (mapping windows to activities, a simple activity
switcher...) and yet the word "but" kept coming up in the back of my head.
in
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