Yes, 1024 is one gig, but often some memory is stolen by the motherboard – for
example if you have an on-board graphics card that uses main memory for its RAM.
Personally, if you can afford it and the 4G is less than 2x the 2G I’d get 4G –
but if you could find 2x2G sticks then you could have
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Mark Phillips
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:36 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: memory
Michael,
It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB sticks.
RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB
Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM
ess. Or at least doesn’t help
> as much as it should. IMHO, of course ;-)
>
>
>
> *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:
> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:36 AM
> *To:* Main PLUG d
what CPU does that box have?
On 2014-10-09 09:36, Mark Phillips wrote:
Michael,
It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB
sticks.
RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB
Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM - DIMM 240-pin
Data Integrity Check - Non-ECC
Speed - 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 )
Features - Du
bmike1@C521 ~ $ lscpu
Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:Little Endian
CPU(s):1
On-line CPU(s) list: 0
Thread(s) per core:1
Core(s) per socket:1
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 1
Vendor ID:
I did a search on "CPU family 15 Model 79 Stepping 2" and this is what I
found.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Sempron%2064%203400%2B%20-%20SDA3400IAA3CN%20%28SDA3400CNBOX%29.html
And here is the benchmark I found
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+3400%2B
I would
I emailed the company I bought the ram from and they said they would send
the 800 Mhz instead of the chips advertised. If that happens I don't know.
If it does not happen should I get the matching 533Mhz ram or can I have
the mismatching speeds (will it default the the slower speed)?
:-)~MIKE~(-:
rsday, October 09, 2014 7:36 AM
TO: Main PLUG discussion list
SUBJECT: Re: memory
Michael,
It seems the max memory is 4GB for that system - 4 banks of 1 GB
sticks.
RAM memory Capacity - 4 GB
Memory Type - DDR2 SDRAM - DIMM 240-pin
Data Integrity Check - Non-ECC
Speed - 667 MHz ( PC2-5300 )
Features -
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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:14 AM
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Subject: RE: memory
My question is what is the computer used for? Are you usi
Mike,
On page 91 of the Dell Dimension C521 that I sent to you, you can use
memory sticks at 533 MHz, 667 MHz, and 800 MHz. Since the original ones are
800 MHz, you did the right thing by changing your order from 533 MHz to 800
MHz.
Bottom line...unless you were doing a lot of RAM intensive compu
Behalf Of Mark Phillips
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:36 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: memory
Mike,
On page 91 of the Dell Dimension C521 that I sent to you, you can use memory
sticks at 533 MHz, 667 MHz, and 800 MHz. Since the original ones are 800 MHz,
you did the right
. If it said:
>
>
>
> %Cpu(s): 20.4 us, 0.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 8.6 id, 70.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
> 0.0 st
>
>
>
> Youd be going to lunch while waiting for it to finish whatever you were
> doing, if I remember the numbers right.
>
>
>
> IMHO, YMMV, etc, etc J
0.0 ni, 28.6 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>>
>>
>> If that said:
>>
>>
>>
>> %Cpu(s): 70.4 us, 0.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.6 id, 26.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si,
>> 0.0 st
>>
>>
>>
>> You’d have something of a slow machine. If
ot: Total of 2 processors activated
>>> (11971.76 BogoMIPS)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, fast cpu, but then I've got 4 processor-bound applications
>>> running all the time on it so its at a load average of 4.79. I've
>>> remembered
8492 cached
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /var/log/dmesg:[0.01] Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value
>>>> calculated using timer frequency.. 5985.88 BogoMIPS (lpj=11971768)
>>>>
>>>> /var/log/dmesg:[0.07402
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, wrote:
>
> My question is what is the computer used for? Are you using it for your
> Linux from scratch project?
>
Well what happened is I was using my laptop as my main computer (which
I have since learned is BAD); I was running everything through it. Then
How old is the laptop and what brand?
On 2014-10-10 11:35, Michael Havens wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, wrote:
My question is what is the computer used for? Are you using it
for your Linux from scratch project?
Well what happened is I was using my laptop as my main computer
it is a 3 year old compaq. not that old!
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:39 AM, wrote:
> How old is the laptop and what brand?
>
>
>
> On 2014-10-10 11:35, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM, wrote:
>>
>> My question is what is the computer used for? Are you us
I always figure that a laptop is good for about 2 years. Anything you
get beyond that are bonus years, but I certainly wouldn't put much
money/effort into repairing a laptop after the 2 year mark.
That being said, I usually get more than 2 years out of my laptops, but
I baby them, so they hav
My mileage has been much better
On 2014-10-10 12:23, Brian Cluff wrote:
I always figure that a laptop is good for about 2 years. Anything you
get beyond that are bonus years, but I certainly wouldn't put much
money/effort into repairing a laptop after the 2 year mark.
That being said, I
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Mark Phillips
wrote:
> Mike,
>
> On page 91 of the Dell Dimension C521 that I sent to you...
>
I didn't even notice that you sent me the manual. Thanks! That will be
beneficial. Also, after perusing it a little I noticed that they said that
the memories need to be
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Brian Cluff wrote:
> I always figure that a laptop is good for about 2 years. Anything you get
> beyond that are bonus years, but I certainly wouldn't put much money/effort
> into repairing a laptop after the 2 year mark.
>
Why not? Is it only because the techn
Don't get me wrong. I've only had a couple of laptops die ever. I just
don't invest anything extra in them after a couple of years. It just
makes more sense to save your money and get another better one than it
does to pour a bunch on money into a laptop that is well past it's prime.
Brian
if I were to get a new laptop would I have problems putting Linux on it?
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Brian Cluff wrote:
> Don't get me wrong. I've only had a couple of laptops die ever. I just
> don't invest anything extra in them after a couple of years. It just makes
> m
not that i have experienced so far.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> if I were to get a new laptop would I have problems putting Linux on it?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
>> Don't get me wrong. I've only had a couple of la
It is a little more challenging installing Linux with the Windows 8 secure
boot, but there are lots of articles on the Internet to help get over this
annoyance. You could also buy a laptop from the Linux laptop vendors -
System 76 is one that comes to mind, and there are several more.
I have used
I'm happy with the laptop so I'm just going to get it fixed and save myself
around $100 .
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Mark Phillips
wrote:
> It is a little more challenging installing Linux with the Windows 8 secure
> boot, but there are lots of articles on the Internet to hel
Probably not, but it would be worth doing a little research to see if
there is anything that doesn't work out of the box.
The most I haven't been able to get to work out of the box so far has
been some of the specialized hot keys, but I don't use them anyway, and
I was able to tweak a config t
If your fixes are only $100 difference between a new laptop and fixing
the old, I would just go for a new one. You will be better off for it.
Brian
On 10/10/2014 01:38 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
I'm happy with the laptop so I'm just going to get it fixed and save
myself around $100 .
:-)~MIKE
I agree with BrianI would not put any money into a 3 year old laptop
when $100 is the incremental cost of a new laptop. Three years is a really
long time in the laptop world.
It is easy to find the issues with installing Linux on a laptop - just
google the model number and Linux. I have found
$100 dollars is a LOT of money to me. I'm getting it fixed.
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips
wrote:
> I agree with BrianI would not put any money into a 3 year old laptop
> when $100 is the incremental cost of a new laptop. Three years is a really
> long time in t
Mint is very easy to install.
On 2014-10-10 13:45, Michael Havens wrote:
if I were to get a new laptop would I have problems putting Linux on
it?
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Brian Cluff
wrote:
Don't get me wrong. I've only had a couple of laptops die ever.
I just don'
Well, I got the new memory installed and all. Here are the new stats:
$ free -h
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:3.8G 1.9G 1.9G14M91M826M
-/+ buffers/cache: 1.0G 2.8G
Swap: 5.6G 0B 5.
The important part is, does it feel faster?
Brian Cluff
On October 13, 2014 7:13:48 PM MST, Michael Havens wrote:
>Well, I got the new memory installed and all. Here are the new stats:
>
> $ free -h
> total used free sharedbuffers cached
>Mem:3.8G 1.9G
I haven't stressed it at all yet the hard drive doesn't run as often
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
> The important part is, does it feel faster?
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On October 13, 2014 7:13:48 PM MST, Michael Havens
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I got the new m
I'm guessing you are nowhere near maxed out. It says you have 2 empty
DIMM slots, and the other 2 slots only have 2 gig DIMMs in them, so I'm
guessing that you can probably put bare minimum of double the memory you
have now and probably at least 4X times memory you have now if you
outright rep
Thanks, Brian. I bought the computer from a friend for $60 so I wasn't
expecting much. Actually this thing has run fine until I started laying
with Hugin!
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
> I'm guessing you are nowhere near maxed out. It says you have 2 empty
> DIMM slots, an
Yeah, I have to admit that Hugin is the main reason that my computer has so
much RAM.
Brian Cluff
On March 12, 2016 11:16:06 AM MST, Michael wrote:
>Thanks, Brian. I bought the computer from a friend for $60 so I wasn't
>expecting much. Actually this thing has run fine until I started laying
>w
On 03/12/2016 11:16 AM, Michael wrote:
> Thanks, Brian. I bought the computer from a friend for $60 so I wasn't
> expecting much. Actually this thing has run fine until I started laying
> with Hugin!
>
Mike,
You can go to: http://www.crucial.com/
and use the "Crucial Advisor tool" to determine w
I'll do it the simple way: take an existing card in and say max me!
:D
Anyways the guy I bought it from is a professor at UF. He gave me all the
paperwork. Gee, I bet what I need is in the manual.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 1:47 PM, KevinO wrote:
> On 03/12/2016 11:16 AM, Michael wrote:
> >
figures... of a book of over 50 pages that is the only page I missed.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Michael wrote:
> I'll do it the simple way: take an existing card in and say max me!
>
> :D
>
> Anyways the guy I bought it from is a professor at UF. He gave me all the
> paperwork. Gee,
okay guys I ordered the new memory and eight GB is on its way.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Michael wrote:
> figures... of a book of over 50 pages that is the only page I missed.
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>> I'll do it the simple way: take an existing card in
Top
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Fabe
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> what is the bash command that gives you a chart of memory usage? Something is
> bogging my system and I don't know what it is. I want to sill it!
>
> --
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
> --
Sorry, lower case top
--
Fabe
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Fabian Santiago
> wrote:
>
> Top
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> --
>
> Fabe
>
>
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> what is the bash command that gives you a chart of memory usage? Something
>> is bogging my system and I don
Thank you so much.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Fabian Santiago wrote:
> Sorry, lower case top
>
> --
>
> Fabe
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Fabian Santiago
> wrote:
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> Top
>
> --
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> Fabe
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> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> what is the bash command that g
smem
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Fabian Santiago
wrote:
> Sorry, lower case top
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> Fabe
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> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Fabian Santiago
> wrote:
>
> Top
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> --
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> Fabe
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> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> what is the bash command that gives you a chart
the problem seems to have been checkapt.py . I tried to figure out what it
does and it seems that it locks a database (apt's?). But it couldn't of
been apt's as I wasn't running apt. Then I ran top again and it seemed to
have corrected itself after 10 or fifteen minutes. Am I correct in what I
thin
Most desktops have a number of package related scripts that run in the
background that will update your package database, and/or install
updates, etc. Since they are working with the package database, apt
will lock the database while it is in use. Usually you won't notice
these scripts runnin
I've noticed on lower-end systems, that daily cron will peg a system for
a bit while that occurs. I had an ancient imac with ubuntu installed
that the apt update would hang the system for like a half-hour with an
old 400mhz ppc proc, consuming all cpu and memory, then swap and thus
disks too.
I thought that was a good idea!
bmike1@c521 ~ $ sudo crontab -u bmike1 -l
no crontab for bmike1
bmike1@c521 ~ $ sudo crontab -u root -l
no crontab for root
bmike1@c521 ~ $
But not in my case. Unless of course there is another user it is run under.
So the mouse wheel in my mind started to creak...
Look at the command "nice" to see if that will help.
On 2015-09-21 18:19, Michael Butash wrote:
I've noticed on lower-end systems, that daily cron will peg a system
for a bit while that occurs. I had an ancient imac with ubuntu
installed that the apt update would hang the system for like a
hal
I think crontab -e is the user crontab. In other words it will edit the
current user's crontab. I think I have just used vi to edit they system
crontab.
On 2015-09-21 19:04, Michael Havens wrote:
I thought that was a good idea!
bmike1@c521 ~ $ sudo crontab -u bmike1 -l
no crontab for bm
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64bit systems have virtually identical memory requirements to 32bit systems.
Brian Cluff
On 01/30/2014 09:02 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
What is the minimum amount of memory needd to run 64bit stuff?
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Brian Cluff wrote:
Michael Havens wrote:
What is the minimum amount of memory needed to run 64bit stuff?
64bit systems have virtually identical memory requirements to 32bit
systems.
64-bit executables are slightly larger and have a bigger memory
footprint than 32-bit executables. The differ
My dad got an NUC for XBMC. Will there be any noticeable difference between
running the 32 or 64 bit versions?
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Matt Graham wrote:
> Brian Cluff wrote:
>
>> Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>>> What is the minimum amount of memory needed to run 64bit stuff?
If he has 4GB or more of ram, yes quite a difference.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> My dad got an NUC for XBMC. Will there be any noticeable difference
> between running the 32 or 64 bit versions?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Matt Graham w
If you are under 256MB run 32 bit.
>From 512MB to 2GB it doesn't matter
4GB and above you need to be running 64 bit
On Jan 30, 2014 10:05 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote:
> My dad got an NUC for XBMC. Will there be any noticeable difference
> between running the 32 or 64 bit versions?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
thsnks guys and gals
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
> If you are under 256MB run 32 bit.
> From 512MB to 2GB it doesn't matter
> 4GB and above you need to be running 64 bit
> On Jan 30, 2014 10:05 AM, "Michael Havens"
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