In most Organizations, Rank Has It's Privileges (RHIP) and this affects Access
to and Disclosure of data. Government Policies present some unique Access
challenges.
These include, from a LOD perspective, that "Disclosure" is another
Organization's Access. For Governments there is a clear distin
All,
I personally am not aware of what the latest status of the Enterprise
Ontology is. I would not assume that "Last modified: Monday, 31 May 2010"
means anything significant happened recently.
I originally encoded the Enterprise Ontology into Ontolingua syntax, and
there might have been a Onto
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> Peristeras, Vassilios wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I have the feeling that we are (at least partly) reinventing the wheel
>> here. There have been several initiatives drafting generic models and
>> representations for organizations. Just two
al Message-
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Subject: Re: Organization ontology
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L
On 10-06-08 04:27, Todd Vincent wrote:
> In the law, there are two concepts (a) Person and (b) Entity.
This is starting to get tangential I think. But would
be a fascinating area to try to model properly. I would
be very wary of attempting it without input from someone
with domain expertise - e
[1][2] which
> go back to 90ies.
Indeed. The development process for org included a survey [a] in order
to learn from existing design patterns which included at least [1].
Dave
[a] http://www.epimorphics.com/web/wiki/organization-ontology-survey
08, 2010 11:27 AM
To: Emmanouil Batsis (Manos)
Cc: Linked Data community; public-egov...@w3.org
Subject: Re: Organization ontology
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 01:03 +0300, Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) wrote:
> Sorry for jumping in. I was thinking that
>
> a) the way i get FormalOrganization, it could as
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 01:03 +0300, Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) wrote:
> Sorry for jumping in. I was thinking that
>
> a) the way i get FormalOrganization, it could as well be called
> LegalEntity to be more precise.
Not quite, there are other LegalEntities that are not Organizations.
The LegalEnt
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 22:27 +0100, William Waites wrote:
> On 10-06-03 16:04, Dave Reynolds wrote:
> > It would be great if you could suggest a better phrasing of the
> > description of a FormalOrganization that would better encompass the
> > range of entities you think should go there? Or are you
ne 08, 2010 12:14 AM
To: Todd Vincent
Cc: Patrick Logan; public-egov...@w3.org; Dave Reynolds; William Waites; Linked
Data community; William Waites; Emmanouil Batsis (Manos)
Subject: Re: Organization ontology
Thanks for this, Todd. Personally, I love the persons on a beach scenario,
because i
elative markup.
Michael A. Norton
From: Todd Vincent
To: Patrick Logan ; Mike Norton
Cc: "public-egov...@w3.org" ; Dave Reynolds
; William Waites ;
Linked Data community ; William Waites
; Emmanouil Batsis (Manos)
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Subject: Re: Organization ontology
On 06/08/2010 12:27 AM, William Waites wrote:
> On 10-06-03 16:04, Dave Reynolds wrote:
>> It would be great if you could suggest a better phrasing of the
>> description of a FormalOrganiza
ul for what it is worth.
Todd
See also U.S. Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 17.
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Hi all,
Organizations can be formal, semi-formal, informal, etc. It can be
constituted by a person or a group of persons (collection / association of
people) for some purpose / objectives. I am not sure if there can be an
association of people, without a purpose!
Instead of members - stakeholders
n
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Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 4:50:03 PM
Subject: Re: Organization ontology
Large corporations often have multiple legal entities and many informal,
somewhat overlapping bus
Large corporations often have multiple legal entities and many informal,
somewhat overlapping business organizations. Just saying. I wrangled with
that. There're several different use cases for these for internal vs
external, customer/vendor, financial vs operations, etc.
On Jun 7, 2010 3:19 PM, "
I can see Manos' point. It seems that LegalEntity rather the Organization
would work well under a sub-domain such as .LAW or .DOJ or .SEC, but under
other sub-domains such as .NASA, the Organization element might be better
served as ProjectName. All instances would help specify the Organizat
On 06/08/2010 12:27 AM, William Waites wrote:
On 10-06-03 16:04, Dave Reynolds wrote:
It would be great if you could suggest a better phrasing of the
description of a FormalOrganization that would better encompass the
range of entities you think should go there? Or are you advocating that
the di
On 10-06-03 16:04, Dave Reynolds wrote:
> It would be great if you could suggest a better phrasing of the
> description of a FormalOrganization that would better encompass the
> range of entities you think should go there? Or are you advocating that
> the distinction between a generic organization
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 09:34 +0100, Ian Davis wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dave Reynolds
> wrote:
> > We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of
> > organizational structures including government organizations.
> >
>
> Congratulations on the publicati
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dave Reynolds
wrote:
> We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of
> organizational structures including government organizations.
>
Congratulations on the publication of this ontology! I've added it to
Schemapedia here:
http://sch
>
> Dave, Jeni, John
>
> [1] http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html
> [2]
> http://www.epimorphics.com/web/category/category/developers/organization-ontology
> [3] http://www.w3.org/ns/org# (available in RDF/XML, N3, Turtle via
> conneg or append .rdf/.n3/.ttl)
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 12:41 -0400, Bob DuCharme wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Does this mean that no sample data has been created yet, or that
> samples used in the course of development are not data that you are
> free to share?
Given the rather ... short ... timescale we were working under the
sketchy ex
Dave,
Does this mean that no sample data has been created yet, or that samples
used in the course of development are not data that you are free to share?
thanks,
Bob
Dave Reynolds wrote:
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:29 -0400, Bob DuCharme wrote:
Is any sample instance data available, whether
Weren't these details of the discussion the sort of "Mission Creep" the org
vocabulary meant to avoid ? Certainly NGO's including Commercial Interests
would like nothing better than to ride the trustworthiness coattails of a
Geo-Political State. But the State is trustworthy precisely because i
said to have any kind
> of membership relationship to that corporation, for example.
He plays a role that we might call "president" in that organization and
that could very happily be represented by an instance of the
org:Membership class.
If the name of the Class is a barrier then it would be easy for you, in
specializing the ontology, to create a new Class for the relationship
which better suits the terminology of your application and make that a
sub-class or equivalent-class of org:Membership.
Dave
[1]
http://www.epimorphics.com/web/wiki/organization-ontology-first-draft
[2] http://www.epimorphics.com/web/wiki/organization-ontology-survey
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, William Waites wrote:
> On 10-06-03 09:01, Dan Brickley wrote:
>> I don't find anything particularly troublesome about the org: vocab on
>> this front. If you really want to critique culturally-loaded
>> ontologies, I'd go find one that declares class hierarchies wi
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:29 -0400, Bob DuCharme wrote:
> Is any sample instance data available, whether it's using real or fake
> organizations?
Not yet, but there will be.
Dave
Is any sample instance data available, whether it's using real or fake
organizations?
thanks,
Bob
On 10-06-03 09:01, Dan Brickley wrote:
> I don't find anything particularly troublesome about the org: vocab on
> this front. If you really want to critique culturally-loaded
> ontologies, I'd go find one that declares class hierarchies with terms
> like 'Terrorist' without giving any operational d
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Dave Reynolds
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:06 +1200, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds
>>> wrote:
>>> > We would like to announce the availability of an ontol
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Dave Reynolds
wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:06 +1200, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds
>> wrote:
>> > We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description
>> > of
>> > organizational structures inclu
To give some different perspective, I don't believe that any of those
issues w/r/t to other governance models impinge on the quality or
utility of this organization ontology whatever. Does it accurately
depict every possible scenario? Not at all. Is it adequate for the use
cases and require
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:06 +1200, Stuart A. Yeates wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds
> wrote:
> > We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of
> > organizational structures including government organizations.
> >
> > This was motivated by the n
Get Kurzweil to do it!
Michael A. Norton
From: Chris Beer
To: Mike Norton
Cc: Stuart A. Yeates ; Dave Reynolds
; Linked Data community ;
"public-egov...@w3.org"
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 10:49:57 PM
Subject: Re: Organization ontology
Cool! L
n Gov!
Michael A. Norton
From: Chris Beer
To: Stuart A. Yeates
Cc: Dave Reynolds ; Linked Data
community ; "public-egov...@w3.org" >
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 10:22:12 PM
Subject: Re: Organization ontology
Good point!
Sent from my iPhone
On 02/06/2010, at 15:06, "Stuart A. Ye
Good point!
Sent from my iPhone
On 02/06/2010, at 15:06, "Stuart A. Yeates" wrote:
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds
wrote:
We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for
description of
organizational structures including government organizations.
This was moti
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds
wrote:
> We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of
> organizational structures including government organizations.
>
> This was motivated by the needs of the data.gov.uk project. After some
> checking we were unable t
ht want to support it by voting it up ;)
Cheers,
Michael
[1]
http://sindice.com/search?q=domain%3Awww.w3.org+Core+organization+ontology&q
t=term
[2] http://prefix.cc/org
Dave,
seeAlso:
1. http://uriburner.com/fct/facet.vsp?cmd=load&fsq_id=45 -- here its
enti
Dave Reynolds schrieb:
> We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for
> description of organizational structures including government
> organizations.
>
Great! This comes in due time :-) I was just looking for something like
that. I'll take a deeper look at it.
Kind regards,
Ang
" http://www.w3.org/ns/org#
or point your browser at http://www.w3.org/ns/org.rdf
Cheers,
Dave
[1]
http://www.epimorphics.com/web/wiki/organization-ontology-second-draft#comment-60
ublic/vocabulary/org.html
> [2]
> http://www.epimorphics.com/web/category/category/developers/organization-ontology
> [3] http://www.w3.org/ns/org# (available in RDF/XML, N3, Turtle via conneg
> or append .rdf/.n3/.ttl)
>
>
--
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On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:37 +0100, Damian Steer wrote:
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> On 01/06/10 08:50, Dave Reynolds wrote:
> > We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for
> > description of organizational structures including government
> > organizations
ncluding government
> >> organizations.
> >>
> > Brilliant! I submitted it now to Sindice [1] and 'registered' the org prefix
> > in prefix.cc [2] - you might want to support it by voting it up ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
> >
>
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 09:26 +0100, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
> Dave,
>
> > We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for
> > description of organizational structures including government organizations.
>
> Brilliant! I submitted it now to Sindice [1] and 'registered' the org prefi
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On 01/06/10 08:50, Dave Reynolds wrote:
> We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for
> description of organizational structures including government
> organizations.
Looks good Dave.
This is fairly close to AIISO [1], which I'm usi
prefix
in prefix.cc [2] - you might want to support it by voting it up ;)
Cheers,
Michael
[1]
http://sindice.com/search?q=domain%3Awww.w3.org+Core+organization+ontology&q
t=term
[2] http://prefix.cc/org
Nice. I've added it to CKAN: http://www.ckan.net/package/org_ontology
Cheers,
o
handle the Organisation stuff, but this is much better!
Great work,
Nathan
Dave, Jeni, John
[1] http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html
[2]
http://www.epimorphics.com/web/category/category/developers/organization-ontology
[3] http://www.w3.org/ns/org# (available in RDF/XML, N
by voting it up ;)
Cheers,
Michael
[1]
http://sindice.com/search?q=domain%3Awww.w3.org+Core+organization+ontology&q
t=term
[2] http://prefix.cc/org
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