Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: > ... >> You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python; >> in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP, >> much less a web framework (which usually consi

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Thu, 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: ... > You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python; > in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP, > much less a web framework (which usually consists of a structured way > to build HTML pages, plus a bunch o

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Jake Angulo wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: >> >> I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat >> system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. >> ... >> >> I wanted to know what

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Jake Angulo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat > system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. > ... > I wanted to know what will I need? > 1 learn network/socket programming I was actua

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Owen Marshall
On 2013-07-18, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 07/18/2013 12:19 PM, Owen Marshall wrote: >> Huh - I (foolishly) didn't realize gmane actually had NNTP, I've always >> used it to search mailing lists. If the list dumped to usenet (much like >> c.l.python) I'd post through sunsite.dk, which is a very nic

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/18/2013 12:19 PM, Owen Marshall wrote: > Huh - I (foolishly) didn't realize gmane actually had NNTP, I've always > used it to search mailing lists. If the list dumped to usenet (much like > c.l.python) I'd post through sunsite.dk, which is a very nice usenet > provider. But that still meant s

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/17/2013 11:39 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > Not discourage you but this is a "been there, done that" kind of project. > You could learn more from reading somebody else is code. What hasn't been > done, and this would be very cool, is a chat program that works > peer-to-peer with no cen

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Owen Marshall
On 2013-07-18, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-07-18, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: >> 18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy ??(): >>> On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? >>> >>> To read this list as a newsgro

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-18, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > 18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy ??(): >> On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: >>> About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and >>> reply? >> >> To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference >> betw

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy написав(ла): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference between the mailing list interface and newsgroup interface is that the

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference between the mailing list interface and newsgroup interface is that the latter automatically segregates messag

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: >> @vikash agrawal >> >> About GUI I discussed it at >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I >> am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I th

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread aseem bansal
Ok I'll mail by e-mail now. Hope that it reaches the place correctly.-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it > to "python-list@python.org"? Or do I need to use "pytho...@python.org" as you > wrote in your post? You replied correctly. The ellipsis was presumably an anti-s

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it to "python-list@python.org"? Or do I need to use "pytho...@python.org" as you wrote in your post? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > @ChrisA > > I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted > before my subscription? Not easily, far as I know. But you now have this reply, and you can always just post something with the right subject line and

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@ChrisA I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted before my subscription? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > @ChrisA > > Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python > 3 and start updating today. > > About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I > have never read a newsgroup leave alone

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@ChrisA Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python 3 and start updating today. About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I have never read a newsgroup leave alone participated in one. I am used to forums like stackoverflow. Any

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > @Andrew Berg > @Chris Angelico > > Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I > can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different > commands for invoking python 2 and Python 3? I am using

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Andrew Berg @Chris Angelico Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different commands for invoking python 2 and Python 3? I am using Windows 7 and use Windows Powershell as an alternative to the li

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > @Chris Angelico > > Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be > useful. > > I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with > things. I am not looking for a debate or anything just

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.07.18 01:36, Aseem Bansal wrote: > I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that Python 2 is status quo so I > learned Python 2 and have been working with it. I am just 1.5 months in > Python programming so should I consider switching to Python 3 if it helps > with new things or shoul

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Chris Angelico Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be useful. I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with things. I am not looking for a debate or anything just a opinion. I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that Pyt

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > @vikash agrawal > > About GUI I discussed it at > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I > am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll > need downloadable clients if I wa

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
@vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable clients if I want to make something like google talk. Then I'll need to impleme

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system > will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. A good thing to start with. Yes, it's been done before, many times... but if you think about it, it's th

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Eric S. Johansson I am a novice who hasn't done any big project in programming. I haven't done anything I can even call a moderate project. I haven't touched web frameworks ever. I have little or no knowledge of network/socket programming. I have never used databases before. I understand that

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Eric S. Johansson
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:36:17 -0400, Aseem Bansal wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted to know what will I need? I think that would require me these 1 learn network/socket progr

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread vikash agrawal
Hi Aseem, First of all great thought and all the best for the learning! On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: > I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat > system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. > > I wanted to know what wil