Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-17 Thread Vicki
on 17/5/02 7:27 pm, Dan Knight at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua D. Braun writes: > >> I have a Performa 640 (with DOS card) and was looking to speed it up and >> turn it into a legacy port printing server. I could care less about the DOS >> card > > Ah, the soul of a true Mac user. We

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-17 Thread Dan Knight
Joshua D. Braun writes: >I have a Performa 640 (with DOS card) and was looking to speed it up and >turn it into a legacy port printing server. I could care less about the DOS >card Ah, the soul of a true Mac user. We don't need no steenkin' Weendows! ;-) >1) What are my best options to spe

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread Scott Holder
At 04:33 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 16:09 -0400 on 16/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: > > >cards or a G3 upgrade. My mostly naked 6500 board works, though I once > >disassembled the case to stick a PCI video card vertically to flash the ROM > >to Mac and it still worked fine. > >Wait a sec. Yo

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread the pickle
At 16:09 -0400 on 16/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >cards or a G3 upgrade. My mostly naked 6500 board works, though I once >disassembled the case to stick a PCI video card vertically to flash the ROM >to Mac and it still worked fine. Wait a sec. You wanna clarify that a bit? :) the pickle FAQ

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread R.A. Cantrell
on 5/16/02 3:13 PM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Re-read that. P600 = IIvx. P600 != P63x/640 :) PPC 7100/80 board should fit the form factor ( and have I got such a dill for you) -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread the pickle
At 16:06 -0400 on 16/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >>While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >>stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? > >As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. Re-read that.

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread the pickle
At 15:57 -0400 on 16/05/02, Haroon wrote: >While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? Lessee...7100 most easily. Actually, pretty much anything onve you really start playing around. the pickle FAQ

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread Scott Holder
At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. As to what works, the x200 and x300 boards should work without issue

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread Scott Holder
At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. As to what works, the x200 and x300 boards should work without issue

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread Haroon
While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread the pickle
At 09:22 -0500 on 16/05/02, Joshua D. Braun wrote: >You have all been very helpful. However, I was wondering what the difference >between 6400 and 6500 boards was that makes the 6400 incompatible? No one is entirely sure yet, but the most prevalent theory is that the Alchemy boards can't generat

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

2002-05-16 Thread Joshua D. Braun
You have all been very helpful. However, I was wondering what the difference between 6400 and 6500 boards was that makes the 6400 incompatible? Also, didn't Apple switch to IDE drives at about that time? I believe the P640 has a SCSI drive, so is there any problem accessing the hard drive? I've

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-16 Thread the pickle
At 03:16 -0400 on 16/05/02, Craig Phillips wrote: >$$$ wise buy a powermac 7500-9600 or clone, and I say stay away from >the 7200. See http://lowendmac.net/best/index.shtml Best Used Mac Buys. What do those have to do with upgrading a 640 DOS? the pickle FAQ

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Craig Phillips
$$$ wise buy a powermac 7500-9600 or clone, and I say stay away from the 7200. See http://lowendmac.net/best/index.shtml Best Used Mac Buys. -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>This was only stretching to 640X480, and I could tell that what I was seeing >was lower resolution than a TV broadcast, since I couldn't read the small >text on the screen. There was a real TV in the room, with a screen size >twice that of the PowerMac, but the picture was much clearer and less

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread John Teffer
>> I was watching TV on an all-in-one PowerMac today at school. While the >> video was filling the whole computer screen, it was obvious that the picture >> wasn't 640X480, but looked more like pixel-doubled 320X240. This made it >> very hard to read small text and make out details. I don't kno

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>Well, the main problem with the DOS cards from the P640 working on the >PowerMacs is they plug into the '040 socket itself. The x200 and x300 >boards don't have '040 sockets, so there'd be nowhere to plug it in :) How the hell was I supposed to know that - I've never even seen one before ;). A

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>I was watching TV on an all-in-one PowerMac today at school. While the >video was filling the whole computer screen, it was obvious that the picture >wasn't 640X480, but looked more like pixel-doubled 320X240. This made it >very hard to read small text and make out details. I don't know if al

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Scott Holder
At 01:07 AM 5/16/2002 +0100, you wrote: >This means that if you swap the logic board for that >of a 6x00 PowerMac you will lose you DOS card. I do know 6300/100 >logic boards work in a Performa 6x0 as I bought this one guaranteed >to work in a 630,6200 and 5200 from a guy who knows his stuff. Wel

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: > >>Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. > >No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? > >>about any of the 5200/5300/6200/6300 class boards, and if you don't put >>much on it, one of

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread John Teffer
on 5/15/02 4:17 PM, Joshua D. Braun at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 3) If I upgrade to a new motherboard, is there still a capability to insert > a tuner card? Is this a cost effective way to not need a TV in a small > apartment? I was watching TV on an all-in-one PowerMac today at school. While

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Scott Holder
At 05:59 PM 5/15/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: > > >Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. > >No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? Works fine. Mine is chipped to 40mhz and the DOS card d

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread the pickle
At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? >about any of the 5200/5300/6200/6300 class boards, and if you don't put >much on it, one of the 6400

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Scott Holder
At 04:17 PM 5/15/2002 -0500, you wrote: >1) What are my best options to speed this machine up? (I¹ve heard either >replace DOS card with processor upgrade or do motherboard swap‹which is >better?) Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. If you don't care about

Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

2002-05-15 Thread Joshua D. Braun
I have a Performa 640 (with DOS card) and was looking to speed it up and turn it into a legacy port printing server. I could care less about the DOS card... If there¹s a market, I¹ll sell it on Ebay, but... 1) What are my best options to speed this machine up? (I¹ve heard either replace DOS card