[RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-12 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers, In my earlier post I deliberately began with "please assume for the sake of argument."  That is because I realised that some readers would find it hard to accept the RDA formulation, encoded with ISBD punctuation, on account of its wordiness plus the likelihood that some headway c

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Alex Kyrios asked: >How many patrons know what "[s.n.]" means, though? A Google search can tell them if they do not. Definitions seen by "hovering" would be a good OPAC feature, certainly better than dumbing down records with too long phrases. Back to the original question: publisher should

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Kyrios, Alex
cess / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:36 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements Kevin Randall said: >But "usually"

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kevin Randall said: >But "usually" can still mean a significant number of exceptions. Yes, but as you indicate further on, at least country can usually be guessed. For example, there are enough differences in American, British, Canadian, and Australian language usage to provide clues. A bibli

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin M Randall
Mac Elrod wrote: > Ian Fairdlough posted: > > >in RDA, the instructions provide for:=0A[Place of pu>blication not > >identified] : [publisher not identified], [date of publicat>ion not > >identified] > > We would never create such a record, and would change any derived > record with this 264.

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Ian Fairdlough posted: >in RDA, the instructions provide for:=0A[Place of pu>blication not >identified] : [publisher not identified], [date of publicat>ion not >identified] We would never create such a record, and would change any derived record with this 264. Googling and clicking on "contac

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Manon Theroux
Ian, More information, in case you are interested: The instruction in RDA Appendix D simply reflects a change that was introduced with the ISBD consolidated edition. Manon Théroux U.S. Senate Library On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > > In Appendix D, ISBD punctuation. > > Wh

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread S Murray
BAC.GC.CA >Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:55 AM >Subject: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements > > > >Dear RDA-L readers, > > >In the following, please assume for the sake of argument that no information is available whatsoever. > >It

Re: [RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Joan Wang
In Appendix D, ISBD punctuation. When adjacent elements within one area are to be enclosed in square brackets, enclose each in its own set of square brackets. EXAMPLE [London] : [Phipps], [1870] Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ian Fairclough wrote:

[RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-11 Thread Ian Fairclough
Dear RDA-L readers, In the following, please assume for the sake of argument that no information is available whatsoever. It is my understanding that, for a published item that has no identification of place, publisher, or date,  AACR2 directs to record: [S.l. : s.n., 19--?] Applicable rules: