ng to other religious people who are struggling with this
> issue. I think that dialogue is important and it is supported and advanced
> when proponents of same-sex marriage express respect for sincerely held
> religious beliefs. I think calling people bigots shuts down the
> conversation. I understand that achieving recognition of s
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Greg Sisk's post re: how to think about the wedding photographer is just the
compelled speech argument one more time. In the case of a photographer, a
First A claim of compelled speech is plausible, though not entirely
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Subject: RE: bigotry and sincere religious belief
Let me try to respond to Chip's post. He asks two basic questions. (1) Why
should we be any more willing to accommodate religious objectors to same-sex
marriage than
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I think that the politics of the moment, and the conversations
declines to
>> accompany another to a prayer service. Of course, we'd need to be careful
>> in tailoring such an exception, so that it was not misused to, say, allow
>> the taxi driver to refuse to deliver a person to a location, such as a
>> church or military r
ace to you,
Derek
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Subject: Re: bigotry and sincere religious belief
I would also add that Greg Sisk’s syllogism only works if (1) you are also
willing to allow photograp
As Chip notes, there are profound difficulties in trying "to use law as a
instrument to sort the sincere objectors from the bigots and phobes." And
until recently, our consistent approach to antidiscrimination laws and
religious accommodations implicitly recognized what Chip ultimately
concludes be
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I get that religious people do not want to be di
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I don't pretend to have definitive answers to the questions that Chip Lupu and
Kevin Chen are discussing. But I think the proper resolution
I get that religious people do not want to be discriminated against. Indeed,
they have lots of protections in the laws already protecting them from
discrimination in employment, public accomodations, and so on. And they have
lots of special treatment in the form of exemptions from laws that co
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I'm not sure how easily it could be done, but we ought to try on some level to
prote
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Subject: Re: bigotry and sincere religious belief
I'm very pleased that my former (and highly able) student Kevin Chen is now
participating in the list discussion. He wasn't shy about disagreeing with me
in class, and his intellectual temperament has
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I'm very pleased that
other list members have nothing to
contribute to the issues you raise - I do.
Alan
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I'm very pleased that my former (and highly able) student Kevin Chen is now
participating in the list discussion. He wasn't shy about disagreeing with
me in class, and his intellectual temperament has remained the same. For
now, I intend to wait for other answers (if any appear) to the bigotry vs
I'm not sure how easily it could be done, but we ought to try on some level
to protect the sincere religious beliefs
Because attempts to enforce by legal sanctions, acts obnoxious to go great
a proportion of Citizens, tend to enervate the laws in general, and to
slacken the bands of Society. If it
I think that the politics of the moment, and the conversations we have been
having (including the reference to Jim Oleske's provocative article about
religious objections to inter-racial marriage compared to religious
objections to same sex marriage, *Interracial and Same-Sex Marriages:
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