Please don’t use Strava as your reference as to whether access is permitted on
a specific way as a lot of people do the wrong thing.
> On 23 Apr 2024, at 4:25 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
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> Quoting Ben Ritter :
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> ...
>> *Which publications are distributing maps of the areas in
Use Strava heat maps with caution as they are a record of where people have ridden but doesn’t reflect the correct permissions of a way. regards,Sebastian On 27 Feb 2023, at 9:09 am, Adam Horan wrote:According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strava and
The example below under 3b is misleading, as the location or proximity to
residential properties or freeway/arterial road has no bearing on the allowed
permissions of that way. Assume NSW is similar in their approach and relies on
sign posts being present to confirm permissions.
If you track a
Ian
I see what you are are saying but it does not appear that you are reading the
law as it is written as people under the age of 13 are an exception to the
rule.
The law essentially says you cannot ride on a footpath etc, expect if you are
under the age of 13.
Noting that this law of
Mike
I generally agree with your logic expect that for your second point the
Victorian law Barrs riding on footpaths and the like unless it specifically
signed. In which case the any footpath, path etc would have bicycle=no unless
specific signage is present to indicate that cycling is
Using the tag the tag highway = cycleway indicates that the route is designated
for bicycles only.
In Victoria, this is hardly the case as most paths are generally signed as
shared paths. I’ve yet to come across a dedicated cycle path during my riding.
regards,
Sebastian
> On 17 May 2022,
Thanks Andrew. It does appear we are both looking at the same thing through
different lenses.
The re-tagging of ways I have been undertaking aligns with the Australian
Tagging guidelines, hence I’m not exactly clear on the objection as the
guidelines say that highway=footway should generally
Tony
I don’t understand why you have taken it upon yourself to have to verify other
edits.
OSM data relies on being verifiable.
You and I recently both visited the same area / way, as I made a correction to
incorrect data from a previous mapper. The Mapillary data you provided as part
of
In using the tag access=permissive, how does one verify that access has not
been revoked by the owner?
In one of the changesets in question, the site clearly private property (as it
is a retirement village)
I would have thought that access=private would have been a better tag to use in
lieu of
Thanks Steve,
This is the error I get from Finder. I’m running the latest BigSur MacOSX.
regards,
Sebastian
> On 13 Oct 2021, at 1:39 pm, stevea wrote:
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> Sebastian, I'd be willing to help you off-list get your (alas, Intel-based
> only) macOS running JOSM. It starts with
I was referring to working within OSM and seeing brown dotted vs blue dotted
lines for a path.
If you see a blue shared paths in OSM then you know that that bikes are allowed
by default , however if a footpath allows bicycles then you would need to see
the tags associated with it to know the
Hi Adam
Interesting to see your thoughts below in relation to Victoria.
My point all along has been bikes are not permitted on footy paths used signed
as allowed or should it be a shared path instead?
In which case is there a preference in using footpath with the tags
highway=footway +
Hi Philip,
Tagging footpaths with bicycle=blank/unspecified would work as the OSM default
doesn’t allow bicycles and this fixes the issue of routing software thinking
that bicycles are permitted.
The question is when is a foothpath with bicycles=yes considered a shared path?
Should a shared
I don’t think we should blame routing software, if there is fundamental issue
in the data set it uses to undertake the routing.
In my experience, where paths are correctly tagged, the routing software will
not venture onto paths where the permissions do not permit it. For the majority
of
Hi Kim,
Some of the feedback I have received relates to changing shared paths to
footpaths. According to the access restrictions listed on
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia
Hi Tony
Advice from Vic Police has only been verbal. They won’t go into writing.
I verified this with a friend of mine who is a cop.
They referred me to the penalties listed on the Vic Roads websites that carries
a $545 fine for riding on a footpath.
This information is freely available.
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