OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-25 Thread Douglas Ray
Thanks William and Ertetlen for clarifying: On 25/05/15 10:09 PM, William Whyte wrote: Hi Ertetlen, The base license for NTRU is GPL v2 or higher. However, there's a license to distribute NTRU under GPL alongside open source projects that exist under other licenses: see details at https://git

OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-26 Thread Okembe Mbwambo
On 25/05/15 02:50:50 PM, Douglas Ray wrote: > 2. The "FOSS exception" clause above won't help with existing > OpenBSD policy, insofar as I understand it here: > http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html > [note section towards end on GPL under "Specific Cases"] FWIW, a BSD-licensed NTRU implementa

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-25 Thread Damien Miller
No clarification needed: NTRU is patented, with no "free for all" patent grant. It is a complete non-starter for OpenBSD or OpenSSH. On Tue, 26 May 2015, Douglas Ray wrote: > Thanks William and Ertetlen for clarifying: > > > On 25/05/15 10:09 PM, William Whyte wrote: > > Hi Ertetlen, > > > > T

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
> No clarification needed: NTRU is patented, with no "free for all" patent > grant. It is a complete non-starter for OpenBSD or OpenSSH. Damien is right. It is patented, meaning they want money. They are willing to allow GPL projects to play along, because this creates a base to extract money fr

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-26 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Okembe Mbwambo [okembe.mbwa...@yandex.com] wrote: > On 25/05/15 02:50:50 PM, Douglas Ray wrote: > > > 2. The "FOSS exception" clause above won't help with existing > > OpenBSD policy, insofar as I understand it here: > > http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html > > [note section towards end on GPL u

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-27 Thread Okembe Mbwambo
26.05.2015, 23:08, "Chris Cappuccio" : >>  FWIW, a BSD-licensed NTRU implementation exists at >> https://github.com/tbuktu/libntru and while it is patent encumbered, it >> offers a compile switch that causes it to become patent free in 2017 as >> opposed to the GPL implementation which will be

Re: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era]

2015-05-28 Thread ertetlen barmok
-tech+m42...@openbsd.org To: tech@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD/NTRU policy mismatch [Was: NTRU Open Source Project / Post-quantum era] Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:50:29 +0200 > On 25/05/15 02:50:50 PM, Douglas Ray wrote: > > > 2. The "FOSS exception" clause above won't hel