Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-11 Thread Donald Chester
> I've been ham since 1969 and there has always been a issue with DQRM. > > Mike N2MS > - Original Message - > From: Donald Chester > > What does it say about the state of amateur radio to-day, that the term > "DQRM" has entered our jargon? Yes, it has been with us a long time. Largely

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-11 Thread mstangelo
I've been ham since 1969 and there has always been a issue with DQRM. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Donald Chester To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:54:33 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project What does it say about the state of am

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-11 Thread Donald Chester
What does it say about the state of amateur radio to-day, that the term "DQRM" has entered our jargon? _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-11 Thread rfoxwor1
Mike Waters wrote: > You may have seen an old Wullenweber antenna array at one of those older > FCC sites. IIRC, one is (or was) on the east coast. AFAIK, the Wullenweber > is not used anymore by the FCC and is scheduled to be (or already has been) > replaced with a different --and far less

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread chetmoore
with the commanding Officer before coming out. Chet N4FX -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of mstang...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:38 PM To: Mike Waters Cc: topband Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project The

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread mstangelo
al Message - From: Mike Waters To: topband Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:04:17 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project You may have seen an old Wullenweber antenna array at one of those older FCC sites. IIRC, one is (or was) on the east coast. AFAIK, the Wullenweber is not us

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Waters
You may have seen an old Wullenweber antenna array at one of those older FCC sites. IIRC, one is (or was) on the east coast. AFAIK, the Wullenweber is not used anymore by the FCC and is scheduled to be (or already has been) replaced with a different --and far less complex-- antenna. One thing the

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread Tom W8JI
You/re right of course, it's 1 ft/nanosecond. Don't know what I was thinking. I was also focusing on CW DQRM, since that is 99% of what I operate, and since carriers and CW jamming havw been endemic on the Navassa dxpedition's top band and 80m operations. I agree that for SSB interference, th

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread Jim Garland
ent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:54 PM > To: 'Jim Garland'; 'Lee K7TJR'; Topband@contesting.com > Subject: RE: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project > > Actually ,Jim, the velocity of propagation of radio waves (or light waves) > in free space is about 1 foot/nanos

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread Tim Shoppa
t; Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:08 PM > To: 'Lee K7TJR'; Topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project > > I agree, Lee. Locating a DQRM station involves accurately time stamping the > arrival time of their transmissions, at (at least) three receivers

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-09 Thread Charlie Cunningham
pband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Garland Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:08 PM To: 'Lee K7TJR'; Topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project I agree, Lee. Locating a DQRM station involves accurately time stamping the arrival time of their tr

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Stan Stockton
A friend of mine told me recently that he has had the electrical utility company out several times to fix noise problems and without ever leaving his house tells them exactly which pole is the culprit. Further, that they were always happy to help because he has not been wrong yet. OK, so how d

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
To put this in perspective, I have some familiarity with surveillance systems used by government agencies to search for sources of RF such as cell phones, listening devices, etc in secure locations. It has some analogies to the DQRM problem. Using relative amplitude doesn't work very well to do

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Charlie Cunningham
- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:12 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project Are you sure that will work with sky wave signals? 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mail

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Lee K7TJR
any accuracy across the pond or through the auroral oval. Lee -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 6:12 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project Are you

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Jim Garland
ould be a large deterrant for all but the most sociopathic offenders. 73, 'Jim > -Original Message- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Lee K7TJR > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:47 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re:

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Peter Voelpel
Are you sure that will work with sky wave signals? 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Lee K7TJR Being able to actually replay an entire contest and do a strength and directional analysis in a narrow bandwidth after the fact to

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Lee K7TJR
Greetings top-band community, Interestingly enough the technology exists right here in our own Ham community that could go a long way toward finding these DQRM culprits. There are some beam forming arrays that operate with SDR technology where a recording can be made of a target bandwidth and

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Tom W8JI
I don't remember the article, Charlie, but that's a fabulous idea, and at first blush it doesn't sound all that hard to implement. One way might be to set up three receivers at different locations, each with a 10 MHz GPS or rubidium time base (both inexpensive and readily available.). For each r

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread mstangelo
h.edu> To: n0...@juno.com, Topband@contesting.com Sent: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:49:28 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project I don't remember the article, Charlie, but that's a fabulous idea, and at first blush it doesn't sound all that hard to implement. One way might

Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Dave Bowker via Topband
IMHO, the K1N 'DQRM Tracking Project' is fostering perpetrators to flex their muscle and mettle and challenge the status quo.   The K1N web site proclamation " the objective is to identify stations who are acting as DQRMers and use legal means to stop this behavior" is illogical, without basis

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Mike Waters
If anyone wants to look at the antennas, the exact addresses of all the FCC HF DF sites are in this document: transition.fcc.gov/omd/contracts/pre-award/RFQ1124.pdf Type the address, city, and state of the FCC site you want to examine into Google Maps and zoom in. There is much more informatio

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Mike Waters
I didn't see the ARRL article, but I have researched this on the Web. Type these words into Google: fcc hf df The first hit is a map of where they all are. Most are unmanned. They are all linked to a single manned command center. I'm not certain what type of antennas they use. I studied the sate

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Gary Smith
A couple of observations; The DQRM with EP6T was by far the worst I have ever heard. My guess is a lot of it was because of angry people who did not like Iran as the DX location. If that is correct, I suspect the next P5 operation will be as bad if this isn't corrected somewhat. I am always su

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Amen! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 2:34 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project A poster on the cluster said it the best: DQRM

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Jim Garland
; From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of n0...@juno.com > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:18 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project > > IIRC, quite some years ago, QST had a photo & description of > a F

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Doug Renwick
A poster on the cluster said it the best: DQRM triangulation = nonsense idea! There is no way this is going to identify the offending station(s). IMO at best a bluff. Doug -Original Message- Is anyone using this DQRM Tracking Project report? They want reports of deliberate QRM like 't

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread n0tt1
IIRC, quite some years ago, QST had a photo & description of a FCC "signal locator" (for lack of a better description) consisting of several remote receivers that were linked together. Anyway, these could instantly locate the origin of a skywave signal with a resolution of a city block(!!) usin

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-08 Thread Max Cotton
I think the fact that something positive is being done is working, even if it is electrically futile it is definately putting some DQRM'ers off, the DQRM has been noticeably less and with K1N ops and others reminding the offenders that something is happening is a plus. The triangulation would o

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-07 Thread Art Snapper
Strength is useless unless he is a local. We have been dealing with one for years, but he preferred to harass SSB ops on 20. The FCC issued a $22,000 NAL last year. Maybe that will shut him up. On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: > It would be nice to set something like this up th

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-07 Thread Tom W8JI
It would be nice to set something like this up that works, but it would take more than just how loud someone is. Strength alone is pretty much useless. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-07 Thread Tod
ent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 6:05 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project > > Is anyone using this DQRM Tracking Project report? They want reports of > deliberate QRM like 'tuner uppers' and other types, but not QRMers like cops &g

Re: Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-07 Thread Charlie Cunningham
y are too lazy and inconsiderate to move off the DX QRG to tune up!! :( 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 6:05 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: K1N DQRM Tra

Topband: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-07 Thread Doug Renwick
Is anyone using this DQRM Tracking Project report? They want reports of deliberate QRM like 'tuner uppers' and other types, but not QRMers like cops or 'no splitters'. I don't know how accurate they can be to identify the guilty station on any band especially 160m with or without a directional an