On 6/12/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Any non-infinite version number requires making some assumption
> about the future compatibility of the 3rd party library. Without
> a crystal ball, this will be hard to get right every time. This
> is why I am suggesting a more conservative a
On 6/13/08, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Are the OSGI "real" versions required to be numeric, which would also mean
> 1.x wouldn't work so well as a version for OSGi right?
Yes, the versions need to be numeric, 1.x wont work.
...ant
>
> On
Ant,
I am not sure how relevant this is, but in the context of versioning Tuscany
for OSGi, Tuscany modules are being built as OSGi bundles with "real"
versions (eg. the current build uses "2.0"). The version used is not
currently derived from the maven version, instead it is specified
independent
On 6/12/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am very pleased to see this discussion happening. My thoughts below.
>
> Simon
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> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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>> On 6/12/08, Graham Charters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Hi Rajini, I think you
e.org/releases/versioning.html
> [2]
> http://www.springsource.com/repository/app/faq;jsessionid=3F9467729AC282FE4E08199FDCE40863#q6
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> 2008/6/11 Rajini Sivaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Following on from the discussion on OSGi-enabling third party libraries (
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Hi all,
I have started a discus
t pointing to the docs.
Regards, Graham.
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> 2008/6/11 ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > If we are anyway going to require a "launcher" o
Following on from the discussion on OSGi-enabling third party libraries (
http://markmail.org/message/snltdk2yovr6maq5), this thread addresses the
options for versioning Tuscany bundles and 3rd party libraries distributed
with Tuscany and the implications of choosing these options. I have put
toget
On 6/10/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ant elder wrote:
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>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Simon Nash wrote:
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>>> ant elder wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
Do you have a date that
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Daniel,
Now that is good prog
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Daniel,
Thank you for doing thi
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Daniel,
I have been starin
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
Could you run the
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
It still looks li
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
I am not sure I mi
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
The latest stack trace l
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
I had installed and sta
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Dan,
I dont know whether Daniel
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Daniel,
I tried out your tes
6/3/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> See comments inline.
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> Simon
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> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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>> Simon,
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>> A few comments inline...
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>> On 5/29/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Kelvin,
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you - I can see that you have found
a solution. Yes, you are absolutely right, the felix framework should use
scope "provided" since SdoBundleActivator is only used when SDO is running
inside an OSGi container, and the framework classes are provided
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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I have committed some changes to
On 5/29/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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>> Simon,
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>> A couple of comments inline...
>>
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>> On 5/28/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Sorry for the long delay in respond
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Sebastian,
Thank you for the up
simpler fix for now for you to make
progress will be to use a bundle for your java component.
Regards
> Roshan
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Georg,
Thank you for the lis
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Attachment: samples-calculator-osgi-runtime-patch.txt
Graham,
I have attached the
Simon,
A few comments inline...
On 5/29/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
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>> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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>> There is no technical reason why we can't store 3rd party jars separately
>>> and merge them at runt
On 5/29/08, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On 5/28/08, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Simon N
On 5/28/08, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Graham Charters wrote:
> >
> >> I've been wondering whether we should make this an itest rather than a
> >> sample. We could keep it as a sample, but it relies on
> >
On 5/28/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Graham Charters wrote:
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>> I've been wondering whether we should make this an itest rather than a
>> sample. We could keep it as a sample, but it relies on
>> maven-dependency-plugin to work out the dependencies required to run
>> the sample.
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Georg,
I realized that some of
ine.
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> Simon
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> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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>> On 5/16/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
>>>
>>> Simon Nash wrote:
>>>> ... snip
>>>>
>>>> I believe that if
On 5/28/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> One comment inline.
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> Simon
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> Rajini Sivaram (JIRA) wrote:
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Georg,
Thank you for the detail
Can we decide on a solution for OSGi-enabling 3rd party libs (either in the
distribution or using virtual bundles), so that we can start tackling issues
like versioning (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2343)?
On 5/16/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jean-Sebastien Delf
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2343:
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Am I right in assuming that you
Simon,
Do we actually expect to always find a monitor implementation on the
classpath? If so, I think we should throw an exception earlier on if no
monitor implementation was found, rather than a NullPointerException masking
the original exception when something does go wrong. But shouldn't we
act
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Graham,
I tried out the test (li
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2330:
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Graham,
For some reason, I
Hello,
With the latest codebase, I get intermittent exceptions thrown from the
extension samples - the following exception is from samples/binding-echo. It
looks like the schemas are not in the order they are expected to be in
(sample-binding-echo.xsd and tuscany-sca.xsd). Since the schema list is
Graham,
Is there any reason you didn't switch over to one-bundle-per-3rdparty jar?
I have replaced the manifest.jar file in itest/osgi-tuscany with an
osgi-installer.jar which accepts both absolute and relative pathnames for
jar files. The tests generate and use absolute pathnames, avoiding jar
c
On 5/16/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
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>> Simon Nash wrote:
>> ... snip
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>> I believe that if we are serious about making OSGi-enablement of Tuscany
> a
> first class option, we should consider doing 1). For the longer term to
> support
On 5/15/08, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Rajini Sivaram wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Following on from the discussion in thr
On 5/15/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> Following on from the discussion in thread [1], and based on Sebastien's
>> comments [2], we need to make a decision on the best way forward to
>
Hello,
Following on from the discussion in thread [1], and based on Sebastien's
comments [2], we need to make a decision on the best way forward to
OSGi-enable third party libraries used by Tuscany.
The options we have are:
1. Add OSGi manifest entries to all 3rd party jars in the Tuscany
On 5/13/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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> > Can't it just be much simpler than that?
> > > - 1 bundle per dependency JAR
> > > - containing the OSGi metadata describing that JA
Raymond/Mike,
Thank you for your responses.
I like the idea that it is the responsibility of the binding provider to
ensure that data is correctly copied for cross-classloader calls. But will
that require the default binding.sca to be aware of classloaders? I will
have to look at the code in more
On 5/12/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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> > At the moment, itest/osgi-tuscany generates a manifest jar file called
> > tuscany-sca-manifest.jar using a copy of the pom in distribution. I was
> > hoping that we cou
non-OSGi component is defined in
an OSGi contribution (ie, they use the same classloaders). If
cross-classloader data mapping is specific to OSGi and unlikely to occur in
other scenarios in Tuscany, maybe this should be done in implementation.osgi
- what do you think?
Thanks,
> Raymond
> -
On 5/10/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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> > On 5/5/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Rajini Sivaram wrote:
> > >
> > > At the moment, I am creating a single virtual
+1
On 5/10/08, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Restarting the graduation vote with the updated proposal words, please
> vote
> on the proposal below to graduate Tuscany to a TLP.
>
> +1 from me.
>
> ...ant
>
> X. Establish the Apache Tuscany Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors d
Hello,
I was looking at a JIRA related to SDO parameters to OSGi services (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2307), and was not sure
whether the following scenario is valid for standard Java services in
Tuscany.
Component A and Component B are implemented using and
use default SCA b
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Roshan,
Is the Java component (w
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2293.
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Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
Temporary fix to use TCCL to load the
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2292.
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Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
Fixed under revision 654236.
> Rem
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2294.
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Resolution: Fixed
Changes checked in under revision 654236.
> Add OSGi manifest entr
On 5/5/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rajini Sivaram wrote:
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> >
> > At the moment, I am creating a single virtual 3rd party bundle. For the
> > longer term, if there are use-cases where different Tuscany extensions
> > require diff
gest 3 as a stepping stone
> towards 4 (I guess the '"half-hearted" comment was a bit of a
> give-away ;-) ). I agree it's not ideal from a modularity perspective
> but it does have the advantage that I think it could be introduced a
> lot sooner than 4 and w
Integration
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-1.2
Reporter: Rajini Sivaram
Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
Details on the discussion on adding manifest entries to Tuscany modules are on
this thread:
http://marc.info/?l=tuscany-dev&m=12093689351
: Java SCA Assembly Model
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-1.2
Reporter: Rajini Sivaram
Priority: Minor
Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
All xsds in assembly-xsd are defined in the default package.
tuscany-sca.xsd is currently read by ReallySmallRuntimeBuilder using the
Runtime
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-1.2
Reporter: Rajini Sivaram
Priority: Minor
Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
There are three packages which are split across two modules each in Tuscany:
1) org.apache.tuscany.sca.domain - split across domain and domain-api
2
under pressure if also burdened with defining and
maintaining Tuscany modularity.
But honestly, I think you should choose whichever path makes it easiest for
you to drive the modularity work.
Regards, Graham.
2008/5/2 Rajini Sivaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien
On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Graham Charters wrote:
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> > It would seem that the fine-grained/coarse-grained thoughts have
> > people divided. Rajini's note (aside from the fact she has a tonne of
> > experience having done most, if not all, of the OSGi work in T
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Raymond,
Was the issue with m
On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My 2c:
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> +1 to promote OSGi to a first class Tuscany runtime environment
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> +1 for an OSGi continuum build (thinking about a build profile that'll run
> the Tuscany itest suite in an OSGi environment, similar to the profiles we
> h
On 4/30/08, Graham Charters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 2008/4/30 Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > "Enforcing" the modularity via OSGi is a good way to validate our
> > modularity/extensibility story in Tuscany. I think we already have a
> fairly
> > well organized module structure in Tusca
+1 from me
On 4/28/08, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> We've done a lot of work since last October. We now have a diverse
> community
> of contributors and have demonstrated the ability to attract new
> committers
> to create an even more diverse community, we have shown we can do release
Sorry about that. I have committed a fix under revision 648396.
Due to a difference in classloading between the IBM JDK that I was using for
testing and the Sun(?) JDK on Continuum, an additional class was required to
be visible from the test bundle, resulting in the NoClassDefFoundError.
I was e
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Daniel,
I think you were se
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Rajini Sivaram reassigned TUSCANY-2209:
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Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
> Question about Conversational OSGi Services and Serv
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Patch applied under revision 64
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Thank you, Ant.
I have modified
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Simon,
Thank you for trying out
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Luciano,
I modified all the
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Revision 638836 removes Felix con
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Simon,
Could you update to
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The version of Felix in the Tus
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Jurgen,
Thank you for the patch
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2086.
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Resolution: Fixed
> implementation.osgi cannot find compomentType file when referring
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2097:
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Simon,
Could you delete
Ant,
Did you try running without the Felix console - remove the line containing
org.apache.felix.shell.tui from
osgi-implementation\src\test\resources\osgi\felix\felix.config.properties?
On 3/18/08, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes that simple test works ok, also changing the maven-
And
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4939977
On 3/18/08, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Not sure if this is related:
> http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4851715.
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> Your thread hangs at:
> at java.net.Inet4AddressImpl.getLocalHostName(Native Metho
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2093:
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Ant,
Thank you for the stack t
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2093:
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Thank you for the thread dump.
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2093:
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Ant,
If you can recreate the
triggering some of the OSGI
> related code when the OSGi runtime is not in use ? I'm wondering how
> this could affect the simple paths where no OSGI integration is
> required (e.g default jar contributions and/or file system
> contributions. Thoughts ?
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> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2093:
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Ant,
The jars are the same ver
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2086:
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For your bundle n
On 3/17/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Sorry about that. I hadn't done a clean build, so I didn't notice that
> > binding-feed-atom didn't exist anymore.
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> I did an svn up
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2093:
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Ant,
Can you recreate the han
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2086:
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Thank you for the patch. It has
Simon,
Sorry about that. I hadn't done a clean build, so I didn't notice that
binding-feed-atom didn't exist anymore.
Thank you...
Regards,
Rajini
On 3/17/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ant elder wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Simon,
At the moment, bundles are generated using maven-bundle-plugin, using maven
dependencies. Because the test splits Tuscany into five bundles, it may be
tricky to automatically find the jars for each bundle (I dont know enough
about maven to do this). The build would be simpler if we had a si
Ant,
Thank you for testing that. I have added the new project dependency
(node2-launcher) to osgi-tuscany under revision 637945.
On 3/17/08, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I tried to build itest/osgi-tusca
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2089:
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The dependency on OSGi API for
Luciano,
I have fixed this under revision 637797.
On 3/17/08, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I'm trying to run the Calculator sample from a SCA Distribution
> (trunk) and I'm noticing that it now requires OSGI dependencies. Could
> someone please let me know if this is working as
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2087.
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Resolution: Fixed
Jaas Callback class is now resolved during the resolve phase using the
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2083.
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Resolution: Fixed
GroovyClassLoader is now created using the Tuscany classloader as parent
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