Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop kickin' the dead horse - Create a full Union GTK theme.

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Vermette
I've tackled Emerald, I'll be honest and say "I suck" when it comes to the live conversion, so it could probably be done better. I'll post what I have done tomorrow the moment I get at my regular development machine (traveling). I'll also make a variation with an opaque content arera in case Cimis'

Re: [ubuntu-art] "ArtPackagingSchool"

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Vermette
On Jan 2, 2008 11:08 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Vermette wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2008 10:27 PM, Cory K. < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Who wrote: > > > On Jan 3, 2008 3:04 AM, Cory K. < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >

Re: [ubuntu-art] "ArtPackagingSchool"

2008-01-02 Thread Cory K.
Ken Vermette wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 10:27 PM, Cory K. < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Who wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2008 3:04 AM, Cory K. < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > >> Who wrote: > >> > >>> Cory, I mentioned Ar

[ubuntu-art] Stop kickin' the dead horse - Create a full Union GTK theme.

2008-01-02 Thread xl cheese
I'm going to try to mimick Ken's mockups as close as I can with a true gtk theme. If anyone here would like to help out with it email and we can take it offline. I'll start using the pixmap engine for things I can't get any current themes to make then attempt to alter some other engines to do

Re: [ubuntu-art] "ArtPackagingSchool"

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Vermette
I can lead a team until mid this-month, get a team off to a good start. But if anybody has bold and unique ideas, I'd be willing to work under them. All and all, if people are willing to put up with a guy that has a tree up his [censored for children] for two weeks, and they just need a design -st

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread xl cheese
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 02:31:17 +> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things > forwards.> > On Jan 3, 2008 2:16 AM, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:> > I think votes are valuable. Not for seeing who likes a theme but >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Vermette
"Ooh, what's that one?" OSX is long held as one of the boldest and most unique designs in the industry, when Windows was just toying with XP - Apple made the ultra-shiny, over-glossed look and threw in every effect they could think of and paired it with a pinstripe. If you look at OSX now, compare

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
> > > As long as I can remember the Ubuntu Theme has been part of the > branding, something that helps make Ubuntu known, something for people > to talk about. From this point of view, it has worked very well - if > you see a screenshot of linux and it is brown, you _know_ it is ubuntu > - if you s

Re: [ubuntu-art] "ArtPackagingSchool"

2008-01-02 Thread Cory K.
Who wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008 3:04 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Who wrote: >> >>> Cory, I mentioned ArtPackagingSchool on the wiki page about Theme >>> Teams - are you familiar with the launchpad theme packaging method in >>> a way that would mean you can contribute to that? >>

Re: [ubuntu-art] "ArtPackagingSchool"

2008-01-02 Thread Who
Great :) Now we just need some theme team leaders :P On Jan 3, 2008 3:04 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who wrote: > > Cory, I mentioned ArtPackagingSchool on the wiki page about Theme > > Teams - are you familiar with the launchpad theme packaging method in > > a way that would mean yo

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Andrew Laignel wrote: > Ideally > a default theme should not be even noticed by the public - being neutral > and innofensive as possible should be the goal. A perfect demonstration > of this is Apple, where the current theme for OSX is crips, clean, > stylish and probably as neutral as you can

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
julian wrote: > can you list these three attempts here for the benefit of review? To the best of my ability: 1) Roughly about Warty there was a community effort. The original Launchpad group was created from what I can recall. 2) Around Edgy there was a pretty decent push to get people to organ

[ubuntu-art] "ArtPackagingSchool"

2008-01-02 Thread Cory K.
Who wrote: > Cory, I mentioned ArtPackagingSchool on the wiki page about Theme > Teams - are you familiar with the launchpad theme packaging method in > a way that would mean you can contribute to that? > I notice Troy has added a very sensible comment on the wiki suggesting > we write a document n

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Laignel
Who wrote: > How does a conventional 'vote for the one you like' allow us to see this? > Maybe you could vote 1...5 on each entry then look at the tally graphs for distribution? >> into love it/hate it camps which should be avoided at all cost. Ideally >> a default theme should not be even not

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Who
On Jan 3, 2008 2:29 AM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No author of any theme is remotely aware of whether or not their submission > will make it into the final product. > As Cory K just pointed out - this isn't true. No designer knows if they will make the default. But we can ensure th

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Who
> > Ubuntu has a process for making new packages available to users. There > > is no reason we, as a team, can't follow that and have our artwork > > included in universe (or eventually in main, perhaps?) :) Being > > default, well, that's a different story > > Main vs. Universe means nothing. > >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Who
On Jan 3, 2008 2:16 AM, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think votes are valuable. Not for seeing who likes a theme but rather > who hates it. Any overly stylised theme is going to polarise people How does a conventional 'vote for the one you like' allow us to see this? > into love

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Cory K.
Who wrote: >> Dude you are just spinning your wheels, because I don't understand how >> nything up to this point can be called brilliant. I don't claim to know what >> to implement to get this project back on its feet. But the fact is that we >> are more then two months into a six month release cyc

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Vermette
No author of any theme is remotely aware of whether or not their submission will make it into the final product. I don't know that, if I turn one of my themes into a full-out GTK with Emerald and Metacity, my time will have been worth it. While we are all aware that Mark will decide the final them

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Who
> > > > Dude you are just spinning your wheels, because I don't understand how > nything up to this point can be called brilliant. I don't claim to know what > to implement to get this project back on its feet. But the fact is that we > are more then two months into a six month release cycle withou

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Laignel
I think votes are valuable. Not for seeing who likes a theme but rather who hates it. Any overly stylised theme is going to polarise people into love it/hate it camps which should be avoided at all cost. Ideally a default theme should not be even noticed by the public - being neutral and inn

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Justin Rogers
On Jan 2, 2008 6:47 PM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is no war. > > There never has been war. > > There is only sabdfl and his way that he chooses to run > his company. I applaud his patience, monetary input, and > brilliance in this light. > > Voting is also irrelevan

Re: [ubuntu-art] Usage of Blur...

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Vermette
By default, I don't believe so, but if the art team makes something that might be considered worthwhile - the argument could probably be made to support blur by default on powerful-enough machines. I'm unsure of who would make that decision in the end - possibly Mark, I don't know. On Jan 2, 2008

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread julian
..on Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 04:47:02PM -0800, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > julian wrote: > > we need to see mockups in one place as opposed to scattered over several > > sites > > and hidden as attachments in nests of threads: > > This has been established at least thrice in my knowledge, > and at

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread julian
..on Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:09:56AM +0100, Thomas L.G wrote: > tonic skrev: > > well there is voting > > > > one man, one vote > > To be honest, I don't think that's enough. of course it's not enough, but it's a start. be wary of absolutism when considering the /potential value/ of information:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
tonic wrote: > well there is voting > > one man, one vote > Hilarious. And yes, quite right. sabdfl I suppose _does_ vote. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
julian wrote: > we need to see mockups in one place as opposed to scattered over several sites > and hidden as attachments in nests of threads: This has been established at least thrice in my knowledge, and at no point do people bother to tidy things up into an organized manner. The people who w

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread julian
..on Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:01:26PM +1300, tonic wrote: > well there is voting > > one man, one vote agreed. it indicates /trends/ of interest, something not easily discernable from sprawling mailing list discussion. as someone said earlier, there are many great ideas contributed to this lis

[ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-Art]Theme Teams. Moving Forward. Making Stuff!

2008-01-02 Thread Who
This is quite lengthy. If you can't read it all but are interested then try just to look at the bits with ==?== in front of them - they're questions that I hope as many people in the art-team as possible should answer... Wiki Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Altern

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas L.G
tonic skrev: > well there is voting > > one man, one vote To be honest, I don't think that's enough. If anyone were to agitate for a community-based organization of this work, it would be me (especially since it politically suits my ideals perfectly... ehem). And I am! But every organization ne

Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards.

2008-01-02 Thread tonic
well there is voting one man, one vote On Jan 2, 2008 6:02 PM, Justin Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever, that fact remains that there is no leadership or direction from > the people who can make any decisions. You seem to forget many people, such > as myself, are on here on their own

Re: [ubuntu-art] Usage of Blur...

2008-01-02 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
I don't think it will be, because there are only a few graphic cards which support it. Intel and the free ATI driver are not along them. But I'm just a user and don't know any official decisions. On Jan 2, 2008 11:28 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen a few mockups which seen to

[ubuntu-art] Usage of Blur...

2008-01-02 Thread AA Boy
I have seen a few mockups which seen to make use of blur. I was wondering if anyone knew if it was going to be turned on in Hardy? Just wondering, because I could add that to my mockups if it was (it would also worry me, since not all graphics cards can handle it).. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubun

Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2008-01-02 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
On Jan 2, 2008 10:09 PM, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 23:31 +0100, Nicolas Deschildre wrote: > > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ubuntu-brainstorm-5/ > I prefer the old version. Of course I could try some tweaking. I agree. In the second one, the arro

[ubuntu-art] professional typographer working on the Ubuntu Title font

2008-01-02 Thread Jan Claeys
A professional typographer is working on the Ubuntu Title font: Now, that's a nice "new year present"... :-) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardline v0.2

2008-01-02 Thread sylvain marc
Werry good themes 2008/1/2, Thomas L.G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi there, > Just made another photoshop-mockup, with some improvements and new > stuff. Probably all of it can't be considered improvements, but I just > wanna hear what you guys think. I have little experience with designing > user i

Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2008-01-02 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 23:31 +0100, Nicolas Deschildre wrote: > The last one is good! IMO the branding is almost obvious, and the > triangles of the branding targets the bug, symbolizing the "most > hated" adjective. I can't see a more obvious symbol to a software bug > (but I can be wrong, englis

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme Suggestion

2008-01-02 Thread Laren Dubkowski
"is there an icon theme to the creamy classic theme?" I don't think so, I use the Mac4Lin Leopard icons which can be found here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4Lin+Leopard+GTK+Icon+Theme?content=68413 Here is what my desktop looks like: http://picasaweb.google.com/melaren/Ubuntu/p

Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme Suggestion

2008-01-02 Thread shadowh511
is there an icon theme to the creamy classic theme? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

[ubuntu-art] Hardline v0.2

2008-01-02 Thread Thomas L.G
Hi there, Just made another photoshop-mockup, with some improvements and new stuff. Probably all of it can't be considered improvements, but I just wanna hear what you guys think. I have little experience with designing user interfaces, and none whatsoever with creating linux-themes... So let's

Re: [ubuntu-art] Most hated bug - early morning random idea

2008-01-02 Thread t_w_
> Anyways, no having fun... > http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/01/things-get-silly-on-mailing-list.ht > ml Heh, good one :) I wouldn't mind at all if an adapted version of that one would be chosen instead of my dry work ;) Might be a bit of a challenge to transfer that to 75px height, thoug

Re: [ubuntu-art] Most hated bug - early morning random idea

2008-01-02 Thread Donn
> Anyways, no having fun... > http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/01/things-get-silly-on-mailing-list.h >tml Ha ha. That's the sound that bugs make as you swat them: 'Bzr... Svn!" :D Now back to work, you louts! \d -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.co

Re: [ubuntu-art] Most hated bug - early morning random idea

2008-01-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Donn wrote: > I didn't see your idea2 until a moment ago - crazy man! > He looks like a hard-boiled bad bug. Perhaps he should have a moustache, be > unshaven and smoking a cigar! Hilarious. Somehow I conjured up the image of the "Dazed and Confused" bug triage. Anyways, no having fun... http:

[ubuntu-art] Theme Suggestion

2008-01-02 Thread Laren Dubkowski
I stumbled upon this theme on Gnome-Look. I really like the look of this theme and I think it is similar to some of the mockups I've seen on this mailing list. Some things I like: - I haven't been a big fan of the implementation of brown in Ubuntu, but I think this theme pulls it off quite